What is the truth behind the atomic model?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the validity of various atomic models, specifically questioning the accuracy of classical and modern atomic theories. Participants explore alternative perspectives on atomic structure and the implications of these models.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a new atomic model suggesting that the universe can be viewed as a net, claiming that neither classical nor modern atomic models are correct.
  • Another participant argues that the modern model of the atom is effective and works well in practice.
  • A participant points out that Bohr's model is not considered the modern atomic model, implying a distinction between historical and contemporary theories.
  • Further discussion includes a claim about the interactions of particles in a hypothetical helium atom, suggesting that certain forces lead to specific movements, though the details remain unclear.
  • Another participant acknowledges the differences between Bohr's model and modern interpretations, but asserts that mathematically, the differences may not be significant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of classical and modern atomic models, with no consensus reached regarding the correctness of these models. Some participants defend the modern model, while others challenge its adequacy.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of "modern" and "classical" atomic models, as well as the implications of the proposed new model. The mathematical and conceptual foundations of the claims made are not fully explored.

QuantumNet
Please, take a look on my atomic-model based on that
a universe in which every point can be counted as an origo, must be a net.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8610

You can also read the rest of my theory on http://www.quantumnet-string.tk

This explains the math around the atom, right?

Through this pictures, we obtain that neither the classical or the modern atomic model is correct. Do you agree?
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/classical_atomic_orbit.gif
 
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Originally posted by QuantumNet
Through this pictures, we obtain that neither the classical or the modern atomic model is correct. Do you agree?
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/classical_atomic_orbit.gif
The modern model of the atom works quite well.
 
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Er... Bohr isn't exactly the modern model of the atom...
 


Originally posted by russ_watters
The modern model of the atom works quite well.

if boblock was right,
aa
bb
would lead to
a bb a
since b attracts b and a repells a were b is sink and a is source.
Let's say this is a primitive sort of helium atom.
If two b are on a certain distance from each other, it is discovered that they move from each other:
<-- b b -->
This is due of advanced net physic, and it's not my case to crack.
 
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Originally posted by FZ+
Er... Bohr isn't exactly the modern model of the atom...

No, but... the only difference is the presumed orbit. Mathematically there are no greater differences.
 
Originally posted by FZ+
Er... Bohr isn't exactly the modern model of the atom...
I didn't mean to imply it was. Just take my statement as-is.
 

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