Solving the Electric Field of a Dipole - A Thundercloud Scenario

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field generated by a vertical dipole representing a thundercloud, consisting of a positive and negative charge at specified heights. The problem involves applying the method of images to account for the ground as a perfect conductor.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use the method of images and the dipole electric field formula to find the electric field at the ground. Some participants question the correctness of the units and the application of the dipole formula, suggesting a potential oversight in the calculations.

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Participants are actively discussing the calculations and interpretations of the dipole electric field. There is a recognition of differing results, with some suggesting that a factor may have been overlooked in the original poster's approach. The conversation is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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There is a mention of the need to consider the accuracy of the dipole formula under specific conditions, particularly regarding the distance relative to the dipole's separation.

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I'm stuck on a question involving dipoles and what I am guessing to be the method of images...here goes:

The electrical system of a thundercloud can be represented by a vertical dipole consisting of a charge +40C at a height of 10km and a charge of -40C vertically below it at a height of 6km. What is the electric field at the ground immediately below the cloud, treating the ground as a perfect conductor?



To tackle this question I tried using the method of images to create an image dipole on the other side of the ground. Then using the formula for the E field of a dipole:

E = 1/(4pie0r^5)(3p.rr - r^2p)

Summing the two dipole electric fields, and taking into account the coefficient in the r must go to 0 so that there is no horizontal electric field, I get:

E = -p/(2pie0r^3)

But using the values given, I do not get the answer which is supposed to be 12.8kV, what have I done wrong?
 
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12.8kV ? That's the wrong units for a field.

PS : Post your textbook questions in the Coursework forum above.
 
I meant kVm-1
 
I get 12.8 kV/m, if I just find the field due to each charge (and it's image) and add the numbers.

I get 11.25 kV/m using the dipole equation you posted. I think you forgot a factor of 2 (when you add the field from the image). However, isn't this formula accurate only in the limit r >> a ?
 

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