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Old Aug8-04, 02:35 PM                  #3
vanesch

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Originally Posted by Sammywu
It seems to treat "momentum" and "position" as two basises in that both can span the complete Hilbert space and a unitary tranformation is used to translate the two basis.
This is correct. The momentum basis alone spans the whole state space, and so does the (other) position basis. They are indeed related by a unitary transformation (which is a Fourier transformation).

I vision now the Hilbert space can be constructed with a intertwining "momentum" and "position" not exactly as a direct sum or product; they might not be orthogonal to each others but either one will not be able to span the whole Hilbert space.

Did I misunderstand QM at all?
I guess what troubles you is the fact that in classical mechanics, the phase space (p,q) is the state space, while in quantum theory, only one of both (q or p or a mixture) seems to be necessary.
Well, that's the whole issue !
If you would construct (you are allowed so) a quantum theory where p and q are commuting observables, so that you have a basis labeled in (p,q), you would find out that ALL states are stationary states !
The simplest way to see this is in the Heisenberg picture:
i hbar d O / dt = [O,H]. Because any sensible observable, as well as the hamiltonian, are made up of p and q, and all p and q commute, the commutator [O,H] = 0. So all d/dt = 0.
So you are allowed to build such a quantum theory, but first of all it is a boring one, and second, most important: it doesn't go into the classical theory when h ->0.
Dirac worked out that when we do things the way they have to be done (using q as a basis, or p as a basis) and having the commutation relations [q,p] = i hbar, we DO find back the classical mechanics theory when h->0 (the correspondence principle).

cheers,
Patrick.
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