Is Our Galaxy Destined to Merge with the Great Attractor?

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The discussion centers around the gravitational dynamics of our galaxy in relation to the Great Attractor, exploring whether our galaxy is destined to merge with it. Participants examine the implications of gravitational pull, relative motion, and the nature of galactic interactions over vast timescales.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if the Great Attractor (GA) is moving at a right angle to the trajectory of our galaxy, a merger may not occur, questioning the validity of this reasoning.
  • Another participant counters that the galaxy would follow a curved path towards the GA, implying that a merger could still happen depending on the relative speeds of both entities.
  • A further elaboration likens the situation to smaller-scale gravitational interactions, suggesting that galaxies may spiral towards each other rather than merging in a straight line, with the process potentially taking billions of years.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains competing views regarding the trajectory and potential merger of our galaxy with the Great Attractor. There is no consensus on whether the galaxy will merge or the implications of the GA's motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the relative motion of the Great Attractor and the implications of gravitational dynamics on galactic scales. The discussion does not resolve the assumptions about the GA's movement or the specific distances involved.

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i have read that our galaxy is being pulled towards
the great attractor, also that the speed of gravity
is equal to C, if both of the above are correct then
our galaxy is being pulled to a position that the
great attractor was in the past, i don't know how far
away the GA is but for dscusion purposes only say
it is 100LYs, that would mean that our galaxy is
being pulled to a position occupied by the GA 100
years in the past, now if i suggest that the GA is
mooving at a right angle to the line of travel our galaxy then they
could never merge.
why is my thinking wrong?
 
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Under your assumption our galaxy would be moving in a curved path, which would eventually hit the direction vector of the great attractor and pointing toward it. Whether it merges at that time or later depends on how fast the great attractor is moving relative to our galaxy.
 
Originally posted by mathman
Under your assumption our galaxy would be moving in a curved path, which would eventually hit the direction vector of the great attractor and pointing toward it. Whether it merges at that time or later depends on how fast the great attractor is moving relative to our galaxy.
Yes, it is just like the gravitational effect on any "merging" system of multiple bodies. The fact that is on a >galactic scale is no more or less than on a much smaller scale.

Just think of it like the familiar "protostellar disk" forming a star and planets. The attraction does not pull all the material directly to a single center of mass in a straight line. The material (galaxies in this case) will approach on vectored (curved) paths and spiral closer and closer as they get nearer. Some galaxies may directly merge by chance collision, but most will spiral in with increasing V until they are close enough to collide and/or merge into a large, fat biggie. On this scale, we are probably talking billions of years and maybe even more than the present age of the universe. This is for our large-local group. The same thing is going on in other huge areas of the universe.

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now all is clear thanks
 

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