Rivers & whirlpools of spacetime

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The discussion revolves around the existence of "rivers" and "whirlpools" of spacetime, exploring their potential deformations and behaviors, including the possibility of superluminal acceleration relative to nearby spacetime. The conversation touches on theoretical concepts and speculative ideas within the framework of spacetime geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that spacetime can be visualized as rivers or whirlpools, which may deform in various ways, including linear, spiral, or chaotic flows.
  • One participant suggests that the topology of spacetime can change over time and space, potentially leading to singularities from displaced geometries.
  • Another participant agrees that whirlpools may exist, associating them with the concept of frame-dragging, but expresses skepticism about the existence of rivers and the possibility of superluminal acceleration.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that there may not be a limit on the "velocity" of spacetime itself, implying that superluminal behavior could be conceivable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and nature of rivers and whirlpools in spacetime, with no consensus reached on their behaviors or the implications of superluminal acceleration.

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The discussion includes speculative ideas that depend on interpretations of spacetime geometry and may involve unresolved assumptions about the nature of spacetime itself.

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Do rivers (conduits) or whirlpools (sinks and sources) of spacetime exist, which deform as linear, spiral or chaotic flow, eventually accelerate superluminally relative to nearby spacetime?
 
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...whose topology can deform in time and space like the above-mentioned "river" or "whirlpool." I asked whether sheared or chiral spacetime may develop singularities spontaneously from their displaced geometry.
 
Originally posted by Loren Booda
Do rivers (conduits) or whirlpools (sinks and sources) of spacetime exist, which deform as linear, spiral or chaotic flow, eventually accelerate superluminally relative to nearby spacetime?

Regarding "whirlpools" I would say, yes. I think that is exactly what frame-dragging is.

"Rivers" are a little more difficult to imagine a cause for, but I suppose that they might exist. As for accelerating superluminally, I highly doubt it.
 
Originally posted by Loren Booda
Do rivers (conduits) or whirlpools (sinks and sources) of spacetime exist, which deform as linear, spiral or chaotic flow, eventually accelerate superluminally relative to nearby spacetime?
Well, they say there's no actual limmit on the
"velocity" of space-time itself, so why not ?

Live long and prosper.
 

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