Proving Symmetry of Solutions in 1D Potential

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof for the symmetry or antisymmetry of solutions in a 1D potential and the possibility of degeneracies in the energy spectrum. The proof involves using parity operators and considering the effects on the wave function. It is also mentioned that degeneracies can arise when another observable commutes with the hamiltonian. Additionally, it is noted that the solution does not always need to be either symmetric or antisymmetric, as it depends on the symmetries of the forces in the system. Finally, the difference between solutions and eigenstates is clarified.
  • #1
maethros
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Hi!

I read that in an 1D potential, the solution for the Schrödinger equation is always either symmetric or antisymmetric if the potential is a symmetric function: V(x) = V(-x).

How can I proof this?

Thanks, for ur answers!
 
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  • #2
The proof for this is typically done using parity operators. If your hamiltonian is given by
[tex]\mathcal{H} = \hat{p}^2/2m + V(\hat{x})[/tex]
Write down the time-independent Schrodinger equation, then flip the signs on all the x-coordinates and see what this imposes on the wave function.

If you want a better discussion of this, check out Chapter 4 of Sakurai.
 
  • #3
Great! Thanks for this answer!
 
  • #4
I have another question to the same problem: In which situation can the eigenstates be degenerated?
 
  • #5
I'm not familiar with the word "degenerated". If you mean "having degenerate eigenstates", degeneracies usually arise when you have another observable [tex]\mathcal{O}[/tex] such that [tex]\left [ \mathcal{H}, \mathcal{O} \right ] - 0[/tex]. This implies that an eigenstate of the hamiltonian is also an eigenstate of your new observable (I leave it to you to figure out why).

What frequently happens in this case is that there are multiple values of [tex]\mathcal{O}[/tex] for a given energy eigenvalue, and so you end up with degeneracies in the energy spectrum.

Of course, sometimes things end up being more degenerate than they should be. For example, in hydrogen, the energy levels don't depend on the [tex]\ell[/tex] quantum number, although in general a spherically symmetric potential leads to an [tex]\ell[/tex] dependent energy spectrum. This is called an "accidental degeneracy". In the case of the hydrogen atom, the degeneracy arises because the angular momentum operators aren't the only ones that commute with the hamiltonian, and the underlying group symmetry of the hydrogen hamiltonian is SO(4).
 
  • #6
A superposition of solutions is also a solution. A superposition of a symmetric and an antisymmetric solution is neither symmetric nor antisymmetric. Therefore, the solution does NOT need to be either symmetric or antisymmetric.
 
  • #7
Maethros,

The solution is not always symmetric or antisymmetric !
It depends on the symmetries of the forces in the system.
If the potential is symmetric (V(-x)=V(x)), the the hamiltonian cumutes with the inversion operator (P), and the operators H and P share a common basis of eigenvectors.

Read about the consequence of [A,B]=0, apply that to your case here: [H,P]=0 .
 
  • #8
Are we talking about solutions of the Schrodinger equation, or about eigenstates of the Hamiltonian operator? A superposition of solutions is a solution, whereas a superposition of eigenstates is NOT an eigenstate.
 

1. What is the definition of symmetry in 1D potential solutions?

Symmetry in 1D potential solutions refers to the property of a system where a change in one variable (such as position) results in a corresponding change in another variable (such as energy). In other words, the system remains unchanged under certain transformations.

2. How is symmetry proven in 1D potential solutions?

The symmetry of a system can be proven mathematically by showing that the system's equations and boundary conditions remain unchanged under certain transformations. This involves solving the equations and applying the transformations to see if the solutions remain the same.

3. What are some common transformations used to test symmetry in 1D potential solutions?

Some common transformations used to test symmetry in 1D potential solutions include translations, rotations, and reflections. These transformations can be applied to the system's equations and boundary conditions to see if they remain unchanged.

4. What are the implications of proving symmetry in 1D potential solutions?

Proving symmetry in 1D potential solutions can provide valuable insight into the behavior of the system. For example, it can help determine the allowed energy levels and the corresponding wave functions of the system. It can also aid in the understanding of the symmetries present in physical phenomena.

5. Are there any limitations to proving symmetry in 1D potential solutions?

While symmetry can provide important information about a system, it is not always present in real-world situations. Additionally, the process of proving symmetry can be complex and may not always be possible to do analytically. In some cases, numerical methods may be needed to approximate the solutions and test for symmetry.

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