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Sep2207, 12:46 PM

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I am programming a simple physics simulation and have been following along with some books about the subject. Everything has gone well so far, although at the moment I'm stuck on how to calculate the impulse when two rigid bodies collide. I'll explain the algorithms that I'm using below.
In a frictionless environment I would use this equation to find the impulse that would be applied to both rigid bodies in the collision. J = Vr(1+e) / {1/m1 + 1/m2 + n . [(r1 x n)/I1] x r1 + n . [(r2 x n)/I2] x r2} J  The scalar impulse Vr  The relative closing velocity of the two bodies e  The coefficient of restitution m1  The mass of rigid body 1 m2  The mass of rigid body 2 n  The normal of the collision r1  The vector from the center of mass of rigid body 1 to the point of collision r2  The vector from the center of mass of rigid body 2 to the point of collision I1  Inertia tensor for rigid body 1 I2  Inertia tensor for rigid body 2 I apply the impulse to the objects as such. v1 = v1 + (Jn)/m1 v2 = v2 + (Jn)/m2 w1 = w1 + (r1 x Jn)/I1 w2 = w2 + (r2 x Jn)/I2 v1  Velocity of rigid body 1 v2  Velocity of rigid body 2 w1  Angular velocity of rigid body 1 w2  Angular velocity of rigid body 2 I have tested this and everything works correctly. The thing that I'm clueless about is when I then decide to throw dynamic/kinetic friction into the equation. So far from the books I'm reading this is what I have been able to figure out. This is the updated equations to update the rigid bodies. v1 = v1 + [Jn + (uJ)t]/m1 v2 = v2 + [Jn + (uJ)t]/m2 w1 = w1 + {r1 x [Jn + (uJ)t]}/I1 w2 = w2 + {r2 x [Jn + (uJ)t]}/I2 u  The coefficient of friction t  The tangent normal, this is a unit vector that is perpendicular to the contact normal. The tangent normal is calculated with this equation. t = [(n x Vr) x n] t = t/t I can understand the concept of what his happening in the above equations. I also know that I'm going to need to change the impulse calculation equation because of friction, although I'm not sure how this is done. The books I have only skim over this aspect and I'm a little unsure how to continue. I would imagine it is not difficult, although my searching has not turned up any useful information. So my question is, when two rigid bodies collide in a frictional environment how does one go about calculating the impulse? Thank for reading. :p 



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Sep2207, 02:08 PM

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The friction forces only affect the motion before and after the collision.
You are assuming the collision, and the the transfer of momentum from one body to the other by the impulse, happens instantaneously. So no external forces (including friction forces) can have any effect during that zero amount of time. Saying the same thing a different way: Impulse = force * time. If the collision occurs during a very short time, the impulse forces are very big. They are much bigger than any other forces acting on the system, so you can ignore all the other forces (including friction) during the collision. Hope that helps. 


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