God's Greatness: Logic vs. Faith?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of God, specifically questioning the implications of God's existence without creation. Participants explore whether a God who merely exists, without having created anything, can still be considered great. The conversation touches on definitions of greatness, the essence of divinity, and the relationship between creation and the concept of God, while avoiding religious interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if God never created anything and merely existed, it raises questions about God's greatness and whether such a being would still be considered a God.
  • Another participant argues that by definition, a God must be a creator, suggesting that without creation, the concept of God loses significance.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that there is no universally accepted definition of God, challenging the assumptions made about what constitutes divinity.
  • One participant introduces a pantheistic perspective, describing God as a universal gestalt rather than a creator or puppet master, which diverges from traditional definitions of God.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of God and the necessity of creation for divinity. There is no consensus on whether a non-creating God can be considered great, indicating ongoing disagreement.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on varying definitions of God and greatness, which are not universally agreed upon. The discussion highlights the ambiguity surrounding these concepts and the implications of different philosophical perspectives.

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God is great...?

OK. So let us suppose that god never "created" anything, that "he" made merely existed. Would god still be considered great? Would he be a lesser god than one who might have created the universe? Or maybe for god to be GOD he HAD to create the universe. and doesn't this play into determinism? any thoughts...? and i don't want this to be answered religiously, I'm not looking for that. it's all about logic, right.
 
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TYPO FYI: i ment to say that ... let us suppose that god never "created" anything, that "he" HAD merely existed.
 
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Depends in the end on your definition of greatness.
 
Originally posted by Xclckwrkorrangex
TYPO FYI: i ment to say that ... let us suppose that god never "created" anything, that "he" HAD merely existed.

duh! how would he be a god? by definition, god is the big kahuna, creator and master blaster.

if he didn't create, what good is s/he? down with the lazy bugger!

peace,
 
Originally posted by olde drunk
duh! how would he be a god? by definition, god is the big kahuna, creator and master blaster.

if he didn't create, what good is s/he? down with the lazy bugger!

peace,

There is no definition of god. If you claim to have one, I would like to know what source it is based on.
 
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i prefer to think of a universal gestalt that is greater than the sum of it's parts.

pantheism in general terms, if you would.

not a creator or puppeteer.

peace,
 

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