Profit Equation (need to maximize profit)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around maximizing profit for an automobile manufacturer based on pricing and sales volume. Participants explore mathematical approaches to derive a profit equation, including differentiation and graphical methods, while addressing challenges faced by a student working through the problem.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the initial profit equation based on sales volume and pricing.
  • Another participant suggests maximizing the profit equation through differentiation.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about maximizing profits and seeks a simpler method.
  • Graphical methods are proposed, including finding the feasible region and vertex points.
  • A participant inquires about the mathematical background of another, suggesting calculus or properties of parabolas as helpful.
  • A student shares their background and expresses difficulty recalling differentiation techniques, seeking assistance.
  • Hints are provided regarding the conditions for maximum profit occurring at the endpoints or where the derivative is zero.
  • One participant describes their experience expanding the profit equation and encountering a calculator error, later resolving the issue.
  • A participant corrects their earlier equation and discusses the significance of constant costs in the maximization process.
  • Another participant clarifies the derivative of the profit equation and the necessary steps to find the maximum profit point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical methods to approach the problem, particularly the use of differentiation. However, there is no consensus on the best method for maximizing profit, and some participants express uncertainty or seek clarification on specific steps.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention omitting constant costs in their equations, indicating a potential limitation in the completeness of their profit models. Additionally, there are unresolved mathematical steps and varying levels of understanding among participants.

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An automobile manufacturer finds that 80,000 cars can be sold if each is priced at $12,000. However, the number sold increases by 24 for every $1 decrease in the price. The manufacturer has fixed costs of $45,000,000; in addition, it costs $5,500 to produce each car. How should the cars be priced to maximize profits?

Thanks for all who help.
 
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Maximize the following the following equation for x :

(80,000 + 24x) (12,000 - x) - 5,500x
 
I like the method you use to understand the material! :rolleyes:
 
Maximize Profit Equation but how do you maximize profits

I appreciate the help with the equation and I hope to figure out how to maximize profits by myself but at this point it's a trial and error system. I know there must be an easier way to do this. Thanks all.
 
graph and find the feasible region on your graph. Pick out your vertex points. One will be the maximum. Take this and find an equation for it.

Paden Roder
 
What grade are you in Duke. Have you done any calculus (differentiation) yet. Alternatively have you studied the properites of parabola's before ? Either of those things will give you a "way in" to maximizing that equation.
 
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I am a freshman in college and am currently finishing up calculus, my math teacher gave us this problem to work on in groups but since I was gone I am trying to figure out everything by myself and he refuses to help anyone. I have done differentiation but I forget how to do it since it was months ago. Could you help me? If not I understand but I'm trying to complete this by 5 pm tonight.

One other thing, I tweaked your equation so it worked

[(80,000+24x)(12,000-x)-(5,500)(24x)+(80,000)(5,500)]-45,000,000=profit
 
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Hint: The maximum on an interval either occurs at the end of the interval, or at a point where the derivative is zero.
 
Just expand (multiply out the bracketed terms) that profit equation and you'll see it a parabola. You should get -ax^2 + bx + c. The x^2 term is negative so it's a upsidedown parabola which has it's maximum were the slope (derivative) is zero. So just differentiate the equation and find the value of x that makes the derivative zero.
 
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I multiplied out the whole equation and got -24x2+76,000x+475,000,000 and when i put it in my calculator i get an error "window range". What should i do?
 
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Disregard my last post, I figured it out and thanks so much for everyone who helped me. You saved me lots of stress. Thanks.

I took the derivative and solved for it when it was 0. I got 1583.3 for x to maximize profits if anyone was curious.
 
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One other thing, I tweaked your equation so it worked

[(80,000+24x)(12,000-x)-(5,500)(24x)+(80,000)(5,500)]-45,000,000=profit

OK that's good. BTW I deliberately omited the "constant" parts of the cost equation because they make no difference to the resulting maximization. I did however make a mistake in the original equation as it should have been (omiting constant costs),

(80,000 + 24x) (12,000 - x) - 5,500 * 24x as the "x" dependent terms.

So expanding this out gives, -24x^2 + 76,000x + constant

The constant doesn't matter, the derivative is -48x + 76,000 and all you've got to do is work out what value of "x" makes that zero.
 

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