How do I calculate moment of inertia for a rotating ball on a thin massless rod?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a ball of mass M and radius R1 attached to a thin massless rod, which is rotated in a horizontal circle of radius Ro about an axis of rotation AB. Participants explore different approaches to the problem, including the point-mass approximation and the parallel axis theorem, while addressing specific parts of the problem and potential errors in calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the point-mass approximation for the moment of inertia, stating it is given by Mr^2 with r = Ro + R1.
  • Another participant mentions that the moment of inertia of the sphere about its center is 2(Mr^2)/5, and applies the parallel axis theorem to find the moment of inertia about axis AB as I = Io + MRo^2.
  • A later reply corrects the previous statement regarding the radius, indicating that Ro goes to the center of the sphere, suggesting that R1 may not need to be included for part A.
  • Participants discuss the implications of these calculations and the need to plug in specific numbers for the final part of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to include R1 in the calculations for part A, indicating a lack of consensus on this aspect of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the correct interpretation of the radius Ro in relation to the center of the sphere and how it affects the calculations for moment of inertia. Additionally, the discussion does not resolve the implications of using the point-mass approximation versus considering the sphere's finite radius.

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Hi everyone I am have done part of this problem but i am wondering how you would go about it:

A ball of mass M and radius R1 on the end of a thin massless rod is rotated in a horizontal circle of radius Ro about an axis of rotation AB.

a. Considering the mass of the ball to be concentrated at its center of mass, calculate its moment of inertia about AB.

b. Using the parallel axis theorem and considering the finite radius of the ball, calculate the moment of inertia of the ball about AB.

c. Calculate the percentage error introduced by the point mass approximation for R1 = 10 cm and Ro = 1.0m

I am having difficulty with these problems, I was wondering what you would suggest?

Thanks a lot.
 
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If you're making the point-mass approximation, the moment of inertia will be given by Mr^2 with r = Ro + R1

If you consider the moment of inertia of the sphere, the sphere has a moment of inertia of 2(Mr^2)/5 about its center (you either look that up or compute it using the definition of moment of inertia; here, r = R1). Using the parallel axis theorem, you should find that the moment of inertia about the axis AB is I = Io + MRo^2

a little cleaner:

[tex]I = \frac 2 5 MR_1^2 + MR_o^2[/tex]

For the last part, you just have to plug in numbers.

Hope that helped.
 
I don't know if this makes a difference james, but Ro goes all the way to the center of the sphere, so I don't know if you must include R1 for part A.
 
Divergent13 said:
I don't know if this makes a difference james, but Ro goes all the way to the center of the sphere, so I don't know if you must include R1 for part A.

You're right; for the first part, r = Ro, not r= Ro + R1 like I said. (The second part is unchanged.) Thanks.
 

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