Fractals of rational dimension and fractals of integral powers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the generalizations of fractals with nonzero rational dimensions and the geometric comparisons between fractals of non-integral dimensions and those of integral powers. It explores theoretical aspects of fractal dimensions and their implications in geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant queries about generalizations concerning fractals of nonzero rational dimensions M/N and their geometric comparisons to fractals of integral dimensions.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of raising a fractal space to an integer Nth power to achieve a whole number dimensional space.
  • A further point is made regarding the geometry of a fractal dimension F extended to G axes, leading to a comparison of GF fractal dimensional spaces.
  • One participant asserts that the Sierpinski gasket has a fractal dimension of exactly two.
  • In response, another participant contests this claim, stating that the Sierpinski gasket has a dimension of approximately 1.58, and argues that if its dimension were 2, it would not qualify as a fractal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the fractal dimension of the Sierpinski gasket, with differing views on its dimensionality. The broader questions about fractals of rational dimensions and their geometric implications remain open for exploration.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved mathematical claims regarding the dimensions of specific fractals and lacks consensus on the definitions and implications of fractal dimensions.

Loren Booda
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What generalizations can be made concerning fractals of nonzero rational dimensions M/N (where M and N are nonzero integers)?

How does a fractal of non-integral dimension F compare geometrically to a fractal of dimension GF, where G is a nonzero integer?
 
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In the first paragraph, I was concerned with a fractal space that could be raised to the integer Nth power to obtain a whole number dimensional space.

Similarly, in the second paragraph, I wondered about the geometry of an "axis" of fractal dimension F extended to G axes to produce a GF fractal dimensional space, or moreso, comparing the geometry of int[GF] dimensional spaces of int[GF] axes for G=1, 2, 3... .
 
Believe the Serpinski gasket has a fractal dimension of exactly two.
 
Originally posted by Ben-CS
Believe the Serpinski gasket has a fractal dimension of exactly two.

no - triangle has a dimension of 1.58. Carpet has a dimension of 1.89.

If its dimension was 2 it wouln't be a fractal.

Cheers,

ron.

Can't help with the earlier Q.
 

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