Micro-environment in cell nucleus

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The discussion centers on the salt conditions within the cell nucleus and how these conditions may influence protein-protein and protein-DNA interactions. Participants explore the differences in ionic concentrations between the nucleus and cytoplasm, the role of specific salts, and the potential presence of ion pumps in the nuclear envelope.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the salt concentrations in the nucleus may differ significantly from those in the cytoplasm, with varying estimates for [KCl] and [NaCl].
  • It is proposed that the stability of the DNA-histone complex is dependent on specific salt concentrations, with some indicating an optimum of around 100 mM NaCl.
  • Questions are raised about the size of nuclear pores and whether ions can pass through, as well as the existence of ion pumps in the nuclear envelope.
  • Some participants argue that the concentration of Na+ and K+ is maintained at specific levels to balance osmosis and provide countercharge, with references to the extracellular environment.
  • There is a suggestion that the concentration of salts may vary within different locations in the cytoplasm and potentially in the nucleus, influenced by the fluid nature of the intracellular space.
  • Concerns are expressed about the variability of salt concentration affecting biochemical reactions, with some reactions being more sensitive to specific ionic conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact salt concentrations in the nucleus or the mechanisms by which these concentrations are maintained. Multiple competing views on the role of salts and the presence of ion pumps remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty regarding the specific ionic concentrations in the nucleus, the dependence on various factors such as pH and microenvironment, and the lack of definitive evidence regarding ion pumps in the nuclear envelope.

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Is it known what the salt conditions are like in the nucleus? For instance, in the cytoplasm [KCl]=100mM [NaCl]=10mM.. would this be very different in the nucleus?

Which salts would be important in influencing protein/protein or protein/DNA interactions?
 
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From what I've seen, [KCl]=50 mM but it varies, also [NaCl]=100mM because the DNA-histone-complex is only stable for a certain concentration between 20 and 500 mM, and the optimum is 100 mM.

As far as the best salt for influencing the protein-protein and -DNA interactions, it will depend on the protein or DNA, the pH and the microenvironment.
 
100 mM NaCl? That is a lot.. How large are the nuclear pores, are ions able to pass through? Ion pumps known to exist in it? You'd think there must be a lot of cations in the nucleus to compensate for the negative charge of the DNA.

As far as the best salt for influencing the protein-protein and -DNA interactions, it will depend on the protein or DNA, the pH and the microenvironment.
That's why I ask what conditions in the nucleus are like :)
 
Monique said:
For instance, in the cytoplasm [KCl]=100mM [NaCl]=10mM..

I think you are underestimating [NaCl], it should be closer to 100 mM rather than 10 mM. There is also a lot of gradient within the cytoplasm and 100 mM would be an average. The concentration probably goes from 10 mM to 800 mM in the cytoplasm depending of the location. it is propably the same with the nucleus.
 
I am pretty sure the cell keeps the concentration of Na+ low and K+ high, to balance osmosis and provide countercharge.

Why do you think the concentration can depend so much on the location in the cytoplasm?

Have you ever heard of ion-pumps in the nuclear envelope membrane? Since it disintegrates and re-assembles during mitosis there should be some if the conditions in the nucleus are specialized. Or maybe I should go discover them myself and receive a nobel prize for it :wink: maybe it's just sitting in a textbook waiting to be read..
 
Monique said:
I am pretty sure the cell keeps the concentration of Na+ low and K+ high, to balance osmosis and provide countercharge.

If I am correct, it is relative to the external environment. The extracellular environment has [NaCl]=150 mM.

Monique said:
Why do you think the concentration can depend so much on the location in the cytoplasm?

Not all biochemicals reactions requires the same amount of salt concentration and some reaction are more sensitive to certain concentration. The intracellular space is quite fluid and ions move a lot and not necessarly in gradient dependent manner. The compartmentalization is also seen in bacteria.

Monique said:
Have you ever heard of ion-pumps in the nuclear envelope membrane?

Not as far as I remember but I will to reread my cell bio textbook
 

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