Are Intelligent, Socially Awkward Males Unsuccessful Women Due to Being "Shallow?"

Phrak

Get over shallow.

Men are pigs, right?

Fail. Men are stallions. There are basically two things men have on their minds: 1) sex and 2) driving too fast, or the human equivalent. We are simple critters.

Then there are us guys, such as myself, who live more inside their own heads. We are nerdy; less likely to be prancing about at high speed and attracting the notice of females to accomplish task 1).

At the risk of starting a sex war, I suggest that women who suggest that "men are pigs" are self-projecting. Bring it on, ladies. I'm well armed for this argument should it be forthcoming.

What do women want? This is not a rhetorical question. They want what you have. In fact they have a tendency to get very enamored at the thought of acquiring your labours, which brings us back to the whole prancing thing.

You have no reason to be shy.

SouthGoingZax

To the OP and anyone else in the same boat, do NOT be afraid to approach girls because you consider yourself "nerdy." Further, don't label yourself as socially awkward! You probably have sooo many interesting things to talk about, maybe just not in the mainstream. I for one would rather talk about physics, etc. with a guy than listen to some meathead prattle on about football or something equally boring.

I'm a bit older than most folks on here I think (27) but I can tell you that I have ALWAYS had a thing for supposedly "nerdy" guys. In undergrad, my friends would tease me about always "corrupting" these sweet, innocent guys who had never had a girlfriend before. For me, there's something about making a guy with so much brainpower melt. Over a few glasses of wine at a bachelorette party once, some girlfriends and I had a silly discussion about if we had ever "deflowered" a guy before. Embarassingly, I took the cake: of the four guys I've ever slept with, all four were virgins before me and all three were physicists/engineers!

The unfortunate flipside to this is that I have had to deal with having some pretty excruciating crushes on off-limits guys (like professors.)

Anyway, enough about me, my point is TALK TO HER, she might go nuts for guys that are conventionally considered "nerds."

cronxeh

It has always fascinated me how women consider themselves to be less sexual than men, yet they sleep around more often. Then they judge us through this lens of self-righteousness and make the guys second guess themselves when they want to approach a girl.

SouthGoingZax

Oh, be nice, four is not that bad, and besides I was in monogamous relationships with them all.. it wasn't four at ONCE!

cronxeh

Oh sweety, 2 is too many, for what its worth.

SouthGoingZax

*SIGH* I guess I invited that. The whole premarital sex argument is a can of worms that I'm not prepared to open on my study break.

Math Is Hard

We do?

cronxeh

What has marriage got to do with that? After you had sex once, you've committed biologically to that person whether you like it or not. Something happens, you breakup or whatever and you go on a little spree there and find yourself another mate. Guess what? You are now cheating on your first commitment with the second guy.

If that is not lying to yourself, which I personally find to be the worst kind of lie, then what is? Sure some might argue that I am crazy, its a great idea to hump around and spread the seed, to which I have 2 words for you.. India and China. Or I guess 1 word.. Asia

Hey can you imagine you name your daughter Asia?

I dont know what women consider themselves, I am not a woman. This opens an opportunity to call me a hypocrite. Go on, let it all out


Although come to think of it, perhaps the more you lie to yourself, the less self respect you have subconsciously, and your own self value starts to go down. Maybe thats why some women date abusive men who treat them like crap and keep falling into that type of relationship

SouthGoingZax

My my cronxeh, you're awfully warlike considering we just "met" minutes ago. And I suppose YOU have never considered intimacy with more than one person in your life, since it's such a repulsive concept?

anubis01

speak for yourself cronxeh, personally the world could do with more women like SouthGoingZax. Seriously where are these kinda girls at my university.

cronxeh

When I was a boy between 16 and 19 I've done my share of humping. In retrospect, it was a time wasted on useless pursuits and shallow ideations. I would argue that sex is great, greater when with the same person, but then again the more you don't have it the more likely you to take a nihilistic approach to it. Its not a matter of rationalization on my part, but rather a realization that you can adapt to pretty much anything that is not essential.

Thats why there is a little man in a boat


I agree, you nerds need to get proactive

SouthGoingZax

EVERYWHERE, you just have to look for us. Then again, I went to Hopkins so it may have been a skewed population sample.

Excuse the generalization, I don't know you from Adam, but "guys like you" are afraid of saying the wrong thing or being "awkward."

"Girls like me" on the other hand, are worried about coming off as not intelligent enough or coming on too strong and scaring you off.

anubis01

Admittedly, I used to be this way, but I've gotten a lot better at this. I even pursued one lady friend that got away...it didn't work out though but it allowed me to move on to other women. In fact if it weren't for exams and this other lady I met going back to France in the summer I could have landed myself a women, but It was just bad timing.

All well, at least I'm ready to apply what I learned for next year.

creepypasta13

EVERYWHERE? My guess is that maybe 1 out of 1000 girls, of average or higher attractiveness, take interest in awkward nerds. You said it yourself that you were the only one out of your friends who takes interest in nerds. Anyways, in my experience, I have seen 'nerds', who had social skills, have success with women. But I've never seen socially awkward nerds have anything close to success.

creepypasta13

I completely agree. But in the case of SouthGoingZax, that's a good thing, because shes going for nerds. We need more nerds to have success with women, so then they'll gain more confidence, and thus produce even more good things for society than they already do

GeorginaS

Care to back up any of this judgmental nonsense with fact?

rootX

.. That reminds me of comfort women