The philosophy of size and placement


by John Jones
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John Jones
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Apr21-11, 06:01 AM
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Some things are bigger than big. They have no-where to sit.
The Universe has no-where to sit.

Some things are smaller than small. They have nowhere to sit.
Quantum Strings have no-where to sit.

Science tells us this.

We, thankfully, are in-between. We have somewhere to sit.

Science has proven this.

Some knowledge is too ... big. It has nowhere to sit -
I know that the Big Bang only started with an explosion because the explosion was caused by the Big Bang. That has nowhere to sit as well.
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Believe it or not, experiments prove that existence isn't so sharply defined as "something exists" and "something doesn't exist".

Also, existence doesn't seem to require a holder in which it would sit and it seems increasingly clear that it can sit and not sit at the same time. Until the symmetry breaks into a crisp, comprehensible and well defined reality. It's magic in the making.

If you really think about it, there is more common sense in it, than saying something as small as a proton expanded to the size of the universe and it all sits into non-existence(or some other similar obscure idea).
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Believe it or not, experiments prove that existence isn't so sharply defined as "something exists" and "something doesn't exist".

Also, existence doesn't seem to require a holder in which it would sit and it seems increasingly clear that it can sit and not sit at the same time. Until the symmetry breaks into a crisp, comprehensible and well defined reality. It's magic in the making.

If you really think about it, there is more common sense in it, than saying something as small as a proton expanded to the size of the universe and it all sits into non-existence(or some other similar obscure idea).
"No-where to sit" means that the idea doesn't make sense.
The idea of the universe being a totality of facts, of whatever sort, doesn't make sense. The idea of a physically limited universe doesn't make sense. The idea of a hidden quantum world obfuscates on what sense is. These ideas have no-where to sit.

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The philosophy of size and placement


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"No-where to sit" means that the idea doesn't make sense.
The idea of the universe being a totality of facts, of whatever sort, doesn't make sense. The idea of a physically limited universe doesn't make sense. The idea of a hidden quantum world obfuscates on what sense is. These ideas have no-where to sit.
OK -I follow all that. So, where do we stand ?
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Apr23-11, 09:43 PM
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The universe is not obliged to make sense to you.

That should factor into your considerations.
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Also, "this does not make sense" is not really a valid philosophical stance.

This should be moved to GD.
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I was thinking about sneaking the thread over to GD, but I'd have to wait until Evo goes to sleep.

Anyway, I've been really lenient/lazy in here lately (I've been extremely busy IRL), but I think this thread is just way too far outside the guidelines.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=47294

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=459350


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