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May18-11, 02:17 PM   #18
 

Men, why are they so complicated?


Mate, no offence but you are blabbering. Why are you babbling about me not knowing her personally? Why does it matter? It is obvious to any1 that I was giving a response based on the info available, hell that's what every1 were doing.

I tell you this 4 the last time. OK?
May18-11, 02:30 PM   #19
 
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Mate, no offence but you are blabbering. Why are you babbling about me not knowing her personally?
Why does it matter? It is obvious to any1 that I was giving a response based on the info available, hell that's what every1 were doing.

I tell you this 4 the last time. OK?
You again fail to see the issue. It is not that you know her that not. It is, that you claim that based on the she data presented that:

a) it is obvious that all she has is "silly insecurity"
b) that logic dictates they should get back together based on the same data

and that

c) when asked the simplest question of them all, to argument your "logic" answer you failed time and again to do so. Perhaps you also want to explain me how is so obviously all she has is an obvious silly insecurity and how you did logically inferred it.
Please be my guest. Perhaps you are some kind of medium and entered a trance ? If it's so, do tell me, the answer is as good as any you gave so far :P

Now, do you want to state fallacies for the 5th time, or provide a form of argumentation, no matter how poor, to your claim she is "obviously suffering from silly insecurities". Try. Thinking wont hurt.
May19-11, 02:15 PM   #20
 
OK I am giving up. Are you seriously failing 2 comprehend the issue? The issue is, that based on the data there is absolutely NO reason 4 not going back 2 him, except, obviously, the (baseless) insecurity and fear of starting another relationship with him after the previous failed due to reasons that are no longer relevant. She provided no negative feature of him what-so-ever.

Why is this so hard to understand for you, DanP? This isn't exactly rocket-science ;)
May19-11, 03:17 PM   #21
 
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obviously, the (baseless) insecurity and fear of starting another relationship with him after the previous failed due to reasons that are no longer relevant. She provided no negative feature of him what-so-ever.
Please imagine that I talk to you very slowly.

How did you determined - logically- as you claimed you did, that her doubt is nothing but "obvious , (baseless) insecurity? Her post does not contains enough information for you to make this claim. Her doubt may be a very real concern that the relation will go again south. Or may be as you say is just insecurity. Or whatever else. It is simply unspecified.

So what did the trick for you and told you that her doubt is baseless? Voodoo ? Shamanism ? A seance with some spirits ? Rubbing a dead frog's feet ?
May19-11, 09:57 PM   #22
 
Wow guys, it was a simple question. No heated debate needed. Calm down!

I'll answer my own question... Friendship=good answer
May19-11, 09:59 PM   #23
 
Ive never understood this 'lets just be friends' business after a breakup. When a man and woman are 'friends' its simply because one of them doesnt want to have sex with the other, and its too awkward for true friendship.
May19-11, 09:59 PM   #24

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I used to date this awesome guy and we broke things off for different reasons. I still really care for him and "love" him. Last night we talked a little about our feelings, and now we both know the feelings are mutual on both parties. We think about each other alot and never have lost the feelings, but not sure if it would be wise to start dating again. Should we just be friends and try to put our feelings aside? Or just start off as friends and let the relationship grow? I'm lost on all of this.....
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May19-11, 10:11 PM   #26

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Ive never understood this 'lets just be friends' business after a breakup. When a man and woman are 'friends' its simply because one of them doesnt want to have sex with the other, and its too awkward for true friendship.
Nonsense. The other side just has to learn to get over it. Then again, if you build your relationship solely on sex, then yah that's going to happen.
May19-11, 10:17 PM   #27
 
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OK I am giving up. Are you seriously failing 2 comprehend the issue? The issue is, that based on the data there is absolutely NO reason 4 not going back 2 him, except, obviously, the (baseless) insecurity and fear of starting another relationship with him after the previous failed due to reasons that are no longer relevant. She provided no negative feature of him what-so-ever.

Why is this so hard to understand for you, DanP? This isn't exactly rocket-science ;)


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May19-11, 10:41 PM   #28
 
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Nonsense. The other side just has to learn to get over it. Then again, if you build your relationship solely on sex, then yah that's going to happen.
Ive been on both sides of the 'lets be friends' and in my experience it just doesn't translate into a true, long lasting friendship. Maybe I'm overly strict in my definition of friendship.
May20-11, 08:27 AM   #29
 
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Please imagine that I talk to you very slowly.

How did you determined - logically- as you claimed you did, that her doubt is nothing but "obvious , (baseless) insecurity? Her post does not contains enough information for you to make this claim. Her doubt may be a very real concern that the relation will go again south. Or may be as you say is just insecurity. Or whatever else. It is simply unspecified.

So what did the trick for you and told you that her doubt is baseless? Voodoo ? Shamanism ? A seance with some spirits ? Rubbing a dead frog's feet ?
Hey, I usually don't talk like an *******, but seriously dude;

How about you set your brain into gear? I have told you repeatedly, 5 times actually, that I, like EVERYONE ELSE, based my freaking comments on the information that was provided. Do you understand this? YES; based on the info she had provided I could draw my obvious conclusions.

Using your, quite primitive and unimaginative, "logic" we must assume that I could NEVER know if somebody IRL (even if I knew the person very well) was insecure or what was an obvious choice because as you said I'm not a freaking mind-reader and thus I cannot draw perfect conclusions, as I don't have ALL of the data available - even if the person says everything he/she wants me to know.
May20-11, 08:47 AM   #30
 
Feel the rage.
May20-11, 11:16 AM   #31
 
I think this is a good time to have this one locked. Please!
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