For the discovery of asymptotic freedom

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The discussion revolves around the topic of asymptotic freedom, particularly in the context of its recognition by the Nobel Prize committee. Participants express various opinions on the implications of this recognition and related topics in theoretical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants humorously suggest that the Nobel committee may be mistaken about the fundamental forces, specifically claiming that gravity is the true force holding the nucleus together.
  • There is a mention of Carlo Rovelli potentially winning a future Nobel Prize for Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG), with a challenge to bet on this outcome.
  • One participant questions why Bjorken has not received a Nobel Prize for his contributions to scaling, while others who verified his conjecture were awarded.
  • Discussion includes a note about Martinus Veltman accepting a position at Ohio State and his perceived unpopularity in high energy physics circles.
  • Links to interviews with Nobel laureates are shared, highlighting a quote encouraging independent thinking.

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Participants express differing views on the recognition of contributions to physics, particularly regarding the Nobel Prize. There is no consensus on the validity of claims about gravity or the recognition of Bjorken's work.

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Some claims made by participants are speculative and depend on personal opinions rather than established facts. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the significance of asymptotic freedom and related theoretical concepts.

arivero
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"for the discovery of asymptotic freedom"

http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/2004/index.html

LM pointed it out this morning in sps.
 
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Well, all I have to say is that the Nobel committee is going to have egg all over their face when it is finally realized that the force holding the nucleus together is really gravity. :biggrin:
 
Tom Mattson said:
Well, all I have to say is that the Nobel committee is going to have egg all over their face when it is finally realized that the force holding the nucleus together is really gravity. :biggrin:

Hahahahhaha!

You are so naughty. Maybe that's why I like you! :)

Zz.
 
Tom Mattson said:
Well, all I have to say is that the Nobel committee is going to have egg all over their face when it is finally realized that the force holding the nucleus together is really gravity. :biggrin:

I am sure Andrew will agree on this one... :biggrin:

I always knew that asymptotic freedom was worth a lot of money :-p

marlon
 
Carlo Rovelli will win the next Nobel price for LQG...

marlon...
wanna bet on this one ?
 
I bet you are wrong :-p
Let us bet Carlo's book ok :biggrin:

I would like an opinion : how come Bjorken never had the prize for scaling, but Friedman Kendal and Taylor did because they experimentally checked his conjecture ? Bjorken had the idea, they only verified it !
 
Speaking of prize-winners, Martinus Veltman has just accepted a position at Ohio State. Hope he stays. I hear he's not very popular among the high energy circles ...
 
arivero said:
http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/2004/index.html

LM pointed it out this morning in sps.


Here are the real time 'live' interviews given by:

http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/2004/wilczek-interview.html


http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/2004/gross-interview.html

but not one for Politzer?

Great Wilczek Quote from the interview : Think for yourself!

Long time coming.
 

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