|Jun6-03, 11:10 AM||#1|
The UFO Napster
Ladies and Gentleman,
Ivan Seeking has brough up the idea of a "UFO Napster" of sorts that is similar to the Physics/Math Napster found in the Physics forum. These are the basic guidelines that Ivan has provided as to separate genuine scientific efforts and crackpottery and speculation.
These contributions should abide by these following guidelines:
1). Quotes and links from scientific papers and references
2). Reports from newspapers not found in grocery stores e.g. The National Enquirer, The Star, etc.
3). Major media links e.g. NBC, CBS, BBC etc.
4). Government links, or other official agency links such as foreign government sites, foreign news services, or any otherwise respectable source. Also, no posts from Pravda pllleeeeaaase!
5). Some latitude is allowed but links and posts made in blatant violation of the spirit of this UFO Napster will be deleted upon request.
6). Quotes and links only; no arguments are to be made here.
Any post that violates the general guidelines will be dealt with appropriately.
Any questions or comments, please feel free to IM me. Thanks.
|Jun6-03, 06:14 PM||#2|
One of the major UFO events of modern times - known as the Iran 1976 event - provides a nice snapshot of a high quality report.
Listed below are links to .pdf files at the National Security Agency; Freedom of Information Act, UFO results page. Found there are official copies of the original documents. Included in this first file are the distribution list/ routing, and a brief analysis of the event. Then the encounter is described in good detail.
The comments read:
*This is the original report*
Joint Chiefs of Staff copy
Better copy: see attached
Video testimony and a reenactment of the events in Iran, with contributions from the former Iranian Government. Less one reference made in a CIA document, I am not aware of any official documentation beyond the report above. There is some information and a few claims made near the end of this video report not found in the NSA document, however I know of no reason to reject the additional details provided. The rest of the story is recounted fairly accurately.
Next, like the Iran '76 event above, this is a classic. One evening I spent about an hour on the telephone with Col Halt - former Deputy Commander of Bentwaters AFB - and I found his account to be most fascinating. A close encounter at RAF Woodbridge [aka the Bentwaters AFB, Rendlesham Forest incident]:
The official report
Video testimony related to the official document above, and a reenactment of events as described by military personnel.
The official Ministry of Defense files are linked later in this Napster.
|Jun6-03, 06:19 PM||#3|
Many raw UFO reports from the Air Force.
350 UFO files from the CIA:
Go to the Freedom of Information Act, CIA homepage; search UFO.
FBI foia page for unusual phenomena: [The real X-Files]
An assorted mix of raw military reports. Many are not UFOs, but some reports are worth a look.
Many reports from the National Military Command Center
The NSA, FOIA, UFO Files:
Office of the Secretary of Defense/Joint Staff Electronic Reading Room Documents Concerning UFO's
NARA [National Archives and Records Administration]
FOIA Reading Room;
DOD UFO FAQ page
Navy FAQ UFO page
Also, one finds oddities such as this: Communication with E.T [a how to manual]:
|Jun6-03, 06:29 PM||#4|
The UFO Napster
Although Project Bluebook [next post below] is the definitive U.S. government study of UFOs, and though this is mainly historical information, projects Sign and Grudge mark the beginning of the official recognition of the UFO phenomenon.
* Many people have researched all of this and copies of the official documents referenced in this post are widely distributed and shown in the media, however I am still working to find official sources on the internet. In many cases these older files have only been available on microfilm at the national archives. Better sources for this information will be added as they become available.*
The Schulgen Memo
The Twining letter
The Walker memo
Other 1947 FOIA [Freedom of Information Act] memos: More are coming online every day.
Until I can provide official sources for everything, in spite of appearances, this site does have a respectable database of official document photos: http://www.blackvault.com/
|Jun6-03, 06:36 PM||#5|
The official position
*Analysis of Condon Report*
Unsolved Bluebook cases
Secretary of Defense on the end of project Bluebook
Note: It is widely argued that Condon's summary of the report is not representitive of the report. I suggest a complete review before drawing any conclusions.
Ruppelt - Former head of Project Bluebook
U.S. Air Force Fact Sheet
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS AND AIR FORCE PROJECT BLUE BOOK
The general position of the USAF:
|Jun6-03, 06:39 PM||#6|
I will be adding here from time to time
*The COMETA Report: Description*
The COMETA Report Part 1
The COMETA Report Part 2
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region
INFLATION-THEORY IMPLICATIONS FOR EXTRATERRESTRIAL VISITATION
J. Deardorff, B. Haisch, B. Maccabee and H.E. Puthoff
Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, Vol 58, pp. 43-50, 2005.
Are UFO Events related to Sidereal Time - Jacques F. Vallee
The UFO Controversy in America
by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, 1975
Refuting Fermi: John B Alexander Ph.D.
What Is The Responsibility Of The Scientist?
by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, 1966
UFOs, Social Intelligence, and the Condon Committee:
Still in Default
by Dr. Bruce Maccabee
Physical Evidence Related to UFO Reports
The Proceedings of a Workshop Held at the
Pocantico Conference Center, Tarrytown, New York
September 29 – October 4, 1997 :
Unidentified Flying Objects: An Historical Perspective
American Society of Mechanical Engineers
Design Engineering Conference
George W. Earley
Americana Hotel, New York City
May 15-18, 1967
FIFTY-SIX AIRCRAFT PILOT SIGHTlNGS INVOLVING
Richard F. Haines, Ph.D.
"The UFO hypothesis and Survival Questions"
---declassified from SECRET.
Atmosphere or UFO?
by Bruce Maccabee Ph.D.
Optical physicist for the Navy Deparment
--on RADAR events
Bruce S. Maccabee, Ph.D.
The Case for the Extraterrestrial Origins of Flying Saucers
by Stanton Friedman
PANEL URGES STUDY OF UFO REPORTS
Unexplained Phenomena Need Scrutiny, Science Group Says
By Kathy Sawyer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 29, 1998; Page A01
Re: French Government UFO Study
UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENA
EIGHTY YEARS OF PILOT SIGHTINGS
Catalog of Military, Airliner, Private Pilots’ Sightings from 1916 to 2000
USAF contacts with the Joint Intelligence Committee regarding UFOs.
The Rockefeller Report:
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS; DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF
THE UFO PROBLEM: TIME FOR A REASSESSMENT
A Thesis Submitted to the Air and Staff College of
Air University in Partial Fulfillment of The Requirements for Graduation - June 1968.
Aviation Safety in America
A Previously Neglected Factor (1)
By Richard F. Haines
A Preliminary Study of Sixty Four Pilot Sighting Reports
Involving Alleged Electro-Magnetic Effects on Aircraft Systems
From Richard Hall, former Assistant Diretor of NICAP
UFO Files: The Untold Story
"Now You See It, Now You Don't" by Captain Henry S. Shields, HQ USAFE/INOMP
More Scientific papers and reviews:
Go to SSE and search UFO at the top of the page.
See also NICAP, NIDSCI, and UFO Skeptic
|Jun6-03, 08:17 PM||#7|
1960 NICAP press conference
Director of the California Institute For Physics and Astrophysics
FAA Division Chief of Accidents and Investigations
Former chief of the British Defense Staff
Former chief of the British Defense Staff
ABC News interview
More quotes of note:
|Jun6-03, 08:18 PM||#8|
|Jun7-03, 10:44 PM||#9|
Not one of my favorite subjects, this is some of the best information available.
The USAF on Roswell:
GAO report on Roswell to Congressman Schiff of New Mexico:
A few observations:
Page 3 of the government response to Roswell states:
A handwritten entry by Hoover; see page 45 of pdf#1 in the FBI UFO files.
Please see this handwritten entry by Hoover; page 45 of pdf#1 in the FBI UFO files.
July 15th, 1947; responding to the urging of others for the FBI to stay out of the UFO business, Hoover writes the following:
Here is the definitive doc that shows clear knowledge by the FBI that the saucer in the La. case is "sixteen inches in diameter".
See p 4 of 79 of the FBI pdf #2:
It turns out that Bruce Maccabee makes this point clear in his book: The UFO/FBI Connection .
|Jun7-03, 10:58 PM||#10|
I will be adding to this post from time to time.
A RADAR/visual case not to be confused with the Bentwaters AFB/ RAF Woodbridge, 1980 case.
Commentary on Lakenheath by Dr. James E. McDonald:
Missing F-89 Case; Michigan; 1953:
The Ellsworth AFB; 1953
UFO's over Washington DC, 1952:
The Nash/Fortenberry Sighting; 1952
The McMinnville UFO; 1950:
Fargo, North Dakota - aka The Gorman/Fargo Incident; 1948
The Kenneth Arnold Case; Near Mt. Ranier, Washington; June 24, 1947
This is widely percieved as the case that started the modern UFO era
Note: If you look at Arnolds original report sketch at the bottom of the page here, which I don't believe received much attention from the press, it is strikingly similar to the photo allegedly taken July 7th, 1947, in Phoenix, Arizona; seen here. Also, it was the next day - July 8th, 1947 - that the Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) public information office reported the recovery of a crashed disc.
Los Angeles; 1942:
One major WWII UFO event is inappropriately called The Battle of Los Angeles. I have some direct knowledge of this event since my father and other family members were there. The newspaper reports are widely available and the only real question is at what, if anything, did the civil defenses of Los Angeles fire over 1400 anti-aircraft rounds in 1942. The following link provides mostly factual information. Please ignore any introductory hype. The reports that follow are directly from the local papers of the time. Next, a link to Bruce Maccabee's analysis of the photos is given.
This appears to be the actual news broadcast reporting on the event.
Real Player: http://mfile.akamai.com/5022/rm/coas...s_news_ufo.ram
More from WWII:
I contacted the Roerich Museum in New York and confirmed the following quote. The curator’s assistant, being very familiar with this excerpt, then added that Roerich’s wife was also on this expedition. In her diary she comments that this must have been a craft with people from somewhere else; then she suggests the existence of life on other planets. [Ivan]
Potential references to UFOs in art and literature.
|Jun7-03, 11:03 PM||#11|
From CUFON - UFO Information Service Seattle, Washington
History of UFO's During World War II
During world war II the accumulation of sightings of mysterious celestial objects, finally started to worry the military authorities.
In both camps, high-ranking officials of the intelligence services started to study these strange objects and investigation committees composed of military and scientific personnel were set up in various countries. They had a double purpose: first of all to determine the nature of these flying objects and then to see if they constituted a threat to the security of the nation.
During world war II, the Allies, just like the Germans, noticed the presence of these enigmatic flying objects above their secret bases. The first reaction of each side was obviously to suspect espionage on the part of their enemy.
In 1943 the British were the first to set up a special group to enquire into the question of these object. The British set up a small organization to collect evidence. It was headed by Lieutenant General Massey and was inspired by reports from a spy who, in fact was a double agent operating under the orders of the Mayor of Cologne. He had confirmed that the "Foo-fighters" were not German devices, but that the Germans thought that they were Allied weapons which, of course, the British knew was not so.
Later in 1966, was learned from the British Aviation Minister that project Massey had been officially classified in 1944. Perhaps it was pure coincidence, but the double agent was denounced and executed at the beginning of that year. For their part the Germans did not remain inactive. But in 1944, the Wehemacht asked Oberkommando of the "Luftwaffe (aviation)" to set up a center to collect information on all the various sightings of these mysterious celestial objects.
This was known as Sonderburo No 13 which, until the time of the German defeat scrupulously applied itself to its job. The short time that this commission was in existence prevented it from coming to any definite conclusions, but it collected an impressive amount of information.
The first sighting, studied by the Sonderburo, went back two years and came from Hauptmann Fischer, an engineer in civil life. On March 14,1942, at 5:35 p.m., Fischer landed at the secret air base at Banak, in Norway. At that instant the radar picked up a luminous object and Fischer was asked to go up and identify it. At about 10,000 feet the pilot caught sight of the object, and gave a description by radio to the base: an enormous streamlined craft about 300 feet long and about 50 feet in diameter. The "aerial whale" which was Fischer's title for it stayed horizontal for a long moment before rising vertically and disappearing at great speed.
It was not a machine constructed by the hand of man, Fischer stated in his report. On reading the report, Air Marshall Hermann Goering concluded that the solitude of the north does not seem to have done much for this pilot.
The report of another interesting incident was carefully preserved in the archives of the German Investigation Committee: that of the launching of an experimental rocket on February 12, 1944, at the Kummersdorf test center.
On that day the Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, S.S. Reichsfuhrer Himmler and S.S. Gruppenfuhrer Heinz Kammler were present at the launching which was being filmed. Some days later the authorities at the base organized a showing of the film. The astonished spectators, could see very clearly a spherical body which followed the rocket and circled around it.
The authorities immediately suspected Allied espionage. However, an agent informed Himmler that the English were themselves victims of the same sort of phenomenon and thought that it was a new type of German prototype craft. However, the most convincing evidence filed away by the Sonderburo came from a military flying ace.
On September 29, 1944, at 10:45 a.m., a test pilot was trying out a new Messerschmitt jet, ME 262 Schwalbe, when his attention was suddenly caught by two luminous points situated on his right. He shot at full speed in that direction and found himself face to face with a cylindrical object, more than three hundred feet long with some openings along its side, and fitted with long antennae placed in front up to about halfway along its length. Having approached within about 1,500 feet of the craft the pilot was amazed to see that it was moving at a speed of more than 1,200 m.p.h.
|Jun7-03, 11:05 PM||#12|
RB-47 over the Gulf of Mexico; 1957
Father Gill and the night visitors; 1959:
Betty and Barney Hill: 1961
Note: I normally stay away from "abducties" but this case is considered a classic...(Classic what I'm not sure)
Considered by many to be the original modern abduction case.
The Big Sur missile test filming: 1964
Note: I attempted to speak with Mr Mansmann a couple of times. Unfortunately he was too ill to speak and then passed away. I did speak with his wife twice and she was kind enough to have a short discussion with me on both occasions. According to Mrs. Mansmann, Mr. Mansmann maintained the truth of this story until his death last year.
Shag Harbor; 1967
[the NICAP link had been redirected]
Mansfield, Ohio, Coyne Helicopter Incident; 1973
The FOIA document for this event:
Bentwaters AFB: 1980
AKA the RAF Woodbridge, or Rendlesham Forest incident. The two bases are separated by Rendlesham Forest.
Temp note: The link for the UK's Ministry Of Defense files is now dead. Until updated, the files can be downloaded from this site:
JAL Flight 1628 over Alaska: 1986
More select cases:
|Jun7-03, 11:35 PM||#13|
The Avrocar and Project Silverbug:
|Jun8-03, 12:39 AM||#14|
NICAP - National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon.
CUFOS HOME PAGE:
CUFON HOME PAGE:
Bruce Maccabee's website
Society for Scientific Exploration:
National Institute for Discovery Science
International Committee for UFO Research:
Coalition for Freedom of Information Website:
|Jun8-03, 01:07 AM||#15|
*National UFO Reporting Center*
Victorian U.F.O. Research Society Inc.
The Filer Files:
Some video and photo databases:
[Viewer beware! Many photos and videos are obviously hoaxes or nothing of significance]
|Jun16-03, 05:33 AM||#16|
|Jul25-03, 08:17 PM||#17|
'UFO' lights caught on film: 7/23/03, BBC
I suspect that this is a photo of either ball lightning, or a phenomenon that has an appearance similar to ball lighning that is the cause of many UFO reports.
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