Proof of the equation of centripretal force

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The discussion focuses on the proof of the equation of centripetal force, particularly in the context of circular motion. It highlights the complexity of analyzing uniform velocity combined with centripetal acceleration, contrasting it with simpler projectile motion. The participants explore the application of the parallelogram law in circular motion, emphasizing its validity when considering small angles. A geometric proof is mentioned as being more intuitive than a vectorial approach, raising questions about the necessity of calculus for vertical circular motion.

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When we apply the parallelogram on two velocities acting on a single body we see that the velocity in anyone of the two directions remains the same. ( the velocities act on different directions)

When one is velocity and the other acceleration or in other words accelerating a body in some direction other than the body's uniform velocity the situation gets complex. In projectile motion we assume the acceleration to act downwards (rather than the centre) in all the points of its trajectory so that the downward forces are parallel in all the points of its trajectory. This makes the problem easy. And it is legitimate considering the size of earth.

But when we consider circular motion, that's when i get confused. Because here we are dealing with bodies moving in a uniform velocity and at the same time accelerating toward the centre. SO i don't know how to manipulate such conditions. Here the parallelogram law is not applied. I have seen a proof of the equation of centripretal force using pure geometry. And it is intuitive than the vectorial proof. Can it be done for motion in a vertical circle? or is calculus necessary?
 
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hi batballbat! :smile:
batballbat said:
But when we consider circular motion, … Here the parallelogram law is not applied.

yes it is!

consider the velocities at small angles ±θ from some direction …

they're equal in magnitude, so draw two lines of equal length from the same point, at angles ±θ …

the line joining them, to make the diagonal of the parallelogram, is at 90° - θ to both velocities :wink:
 

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