Biology's cornerstone is Evolution

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The discussion revolves around identifying cornerstone theories in various scientific fields, including biology, chemistry, physics, astronomy, and psychology. Participants explore the significance of these theories and their founders, while also considering the foundational aspects of each discipline.

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  • One participant asserts that evolution is the cornerstone of biology, attributing it to Darwin, and emphasizes its necessity for biologists.
  • Another participant suggests that genetics, particularly Mendel's work, should also be considered a cornerstone of biology, as it remains relevant in basic biology.
  • For chemistry, some participants propose Niels Bohr's contributions to atomic structure, while others argue for Mendeleev's periodic table and Lavoisier's work on atomic theory as cornerstones.
  • There is a contention regarding the validity of the Bohr Model, with one participant stating it is largely incorrect and advocating for a broader view of quantum mechanics as a cornerstone.
  • In astronomy, one participant questions whether Copernicus or Newtonian mechanics should be considered a cornerstone theory.
  • Watson and Crick are mentioned for their significant contributions to understanding DNA, highlighting their importance in biology.
  • Freud is proposed as a cornerstone figure in psychology, though another participant adds Descartes, noting that both have faced scrutiny in modern psychology.
  • One participant suggests that Newtonian mechanics could be viewed as the cornerstone of mainstream physics, despite the mention of relativity.
  • Another participant introduces Jons Jacob Berzelius as a significant figure in chemistry for his contributions to the classification of elements.
  • A later reply emphasizes Linus Pauling's pivotal role in modern chemistry, presenting a strong opinion on his contributions.

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The discussion features multiple competing views regarding cornerstone theories across various scientific fields, with no consensus reached on the definitive cornerstones for each discipline.

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Participants express differing opinions on the validity and relevance of certain theories and figures, indicating a lack of agreement on what constitutes a cornerstone in each field. The discussion also reflects varying levels of expertise among participants in different scientific areas.

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I'm not positive that this is the appropriate Forum to post this thread in, but I trust that it will be moved if it needs to be.

I've been thinking about the cornerstones of the different fields of Science. By "cornerstone", I mean a theory that is at the very heart of practically ever discovery made in the field, and that everyone in that field just obviously knows about. (Note: "cornerstone theories" are not what the field itself was founded on.) I've also been thinking about the people who came up with these grand theories (since they (the "founders" of these theories) are usually extremely well-known, not just by scientists, but by laymen also).

I've come up with:
Biology's cornerstone is Evolution. It's founder is Darwin. Everyone knows who Darwin is, and every Biologist must understand Evolution (btw, please correct me, if I get anything wrong in this post).

Theoretical Physics has two cornerstones: Relativity and the Quantum Theory. The founder of Relativity (Einstein) is probably one of the most well-known historical figures in the world. Quantum theory doesn't really have a "founder", so to speak, but notable mentions would be Schrödinger and Heisenber. Every theoretical physicist must know the Quantum Theory and must know Relativity (even though the two happen to be (currently) incompatible).

However, I can't think of any other "cornerstone" theories, for the other fields of science.

Are there any others?
 
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Originally posted by Mentat
I've come up with:
Biology's cornerstone is Evolution. It's founder is Darwin. Everyone knows who Darwin is, and every Biologist must understand Evolution (btw, please correct me, if I get anything wrong in this post).

Evolution is important to biology but I would had genetics. So Mendel could be another biology's conerstone. the law he wrote still stick and we still study his work in basic biology.


For chemistry i would put Niels Bohr for his work on the atom structure. Chemistry is base on atoms and their interactions. Mary Curie and who ever constructed the periodic table of elements could be conerstone.
 


Originally posted by iansmith
Evolution is important to biology but I would had genetics. So Mendel could be another biology's conerstone. the law he wrote still stick and we still study his work in basic biology.

Good point.

For chemistry i would put Niels Bohr for his work on the atom structure. Chemistry is base on atoms and their interactions. Mary Curie and who ever constructed the periodic table of elements could be conerstone.

Thanks for that. I had been trying to see what the cornerstone of Chemistry was, but I don't really know much about Chemistry (in fact, it's probably my weakest field).
 
I wouldn't put the Bohr Model as a cornerstone since it is pretty much wrong all over the place. The quantum atom is MUCH more weird.

For Chemistry, I would put Mendelev and his periodic table, and Lavoissier, einstein et al who perfected the atomic theory of matter. The Avogadro constant probably also features. Quantum Mechanics also kinda fits into this one as well.
 
So what about astronomy? Would that be Copernicus for setting up the solar-centric system, or is there some other theory that is more of a "cornerstone"?
 
Watson and Crick deserve a mention for their theory, which is so important to biology now, that its easily forgotten as being important. Well 'Der' DNA is what transmits the genetic code...
But someone had to put the pieces together in the begining

Psychology? : Freud would be the obvious name. Psychology is a pretty crazy field though.

And then i just want to mention Karl Popper, the guy who has to date put the best effort into pin pointing what 'Science' is...
 
For astronomy, we are probably talking Newtonian Classical Mechanics and General Relativity which together would describe almost all of the universe as a we can observe it. Hmm... a lot of overlaps here...
 
Originally posted by Another God
Psychology? : Freud would be the obvious name. Psychology is a pretty crazy field though.

I would add Descartes too, though both he and Freud's theories have been under extreme scrutiny in modern Psychology.
 
Though I put Relativity as a cornerstone of Theoretical Physics, I think mainstream Physics' "cornerstone" would probably be Newtonian Mechanics, wouldn't it?
 
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another in chemisry, Jons Jacob Berzelins was the first to assign number and rank to the elements. i think
 
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Man, y'all don't know nothing 'bout no chemistry.


The father of all modern chemistry is OSU's own Linus "two frikkin Nobels" Pauling. Truly a god among insects.
 

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