Shipwreck in Baltic Sea? A UFO?

DennisN

Ok, sorry. Do you want me to edit/delete my post? Edit: Edit: I've striked out the things which was supposed to be a joke.

Evo

Dotini

Those mighty, semi-serious Swedes are back at work again over their mystery object on the bottom of the Baltic. Soon we should all know more.
http://www.oceanexplorer.se/

Respectfully submitted,
Steve

DaveC426913

Really? Huh! I guess this isn't just another internet meme. I will watch with renewed interest.

Dotini

Doubts are emerging over the motives of the treasure hunters. Sponsorship by a reality TV show and suspicious documents fuel suspicions of a (gasp!) commercial scam. The Swedes, having returned to port over the weekend, presumably to refill their beer lockers, are once again returning to the scene of the crime, or gold-mine, or whatever it is. They promise the "truth", so suspicion naturally doubles. I'd post a link, but the whole thing is starting to smell like lutefisk.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve

DennisN

Yeah, I got that feeling too after reading the page submitted above. Treasure hunters, indeed . I've tried to find some more info regarding this thing on Swedish sites, but I've failed; I've found zero, nada, zilch. :(

DaveC426913

I joined the FB group, just so I would get updates.

Mostly it's people flaming them.

Hepth

Its a great idea to make some money, notice their first blog post this year.

Seems like a get-rich-quick scheme.

DaveC426913

As far as I'm concerned, it matters not whether they try to make a show about it - I am still curious as to what it is. Th only down-side I see is that we won't find that out till sweeps week...

I still say it's a sunken drill rig platform.

Dotini

Okay, I've seen the diver's video and read the brief report. It's an odd stone formation. Circular, but profiled something like a dome, or mushroom. It has what is said to be an egg shaped hole in the top, and covered with something like soot and has some smaller so far unexplained features. I'd link to the video but it's embedded in a sub PF standard website. Volcanism is said to be unknown in the area, but there's always a first time.

From the self-styled treasure hunter's website:
Treasure hunters confirm they have found something abnormal in the seabed

STOCKHOLM, Sweden, June 15, 2012

The Ocean X Team dove down to the circle-shaped object in the Baltic Sea and met something they never experienced before. First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot.

“During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn. I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions “, says Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team.

The path to the object itself can be described as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it.

“First we thought this was only stone, but this is something else. And since no volcanic activity has ever been reported in the Baltic Sea the find becomes even stranger. As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver“, continues Peter Lindberg, one of the founder Ocean X Team.

Right now, scientists are examining samples from the circle-shaped object, and experts in sonar imaging are processing data from the ship to hopefully shed more light over the mysterious object.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve

Dotini

http://gizmodo.com/5918762/divers-ex...-in-baltic-sea
Video and photos - incomplete.

http://www.openminds.tv/baltic-sea-u...-abnormal-960/
Slightly better video in Swedish

Are we dealing with a scientific discovery - or a fraud?

Respectfully submitted,
Steve

JTB

I expect this will be explained by geological effects by the receding ice sheet and water currents under the ice sheet, forming and depositing rocks and sediments. (Or something to that effect).

The feature that runs like a fault (as I understand it) up to this circular formation, may be due to ice weigth vanishing and land raising - breaking shallow rock?

DaveC426913

I'm comfortable ruling out fraud. The thing is there, it's a matter of interpretation.

I think the question is: are we dealing with something natural but unprecedented or something natural but mundane?

Now that sunken oil rig is almost ruled out, my next best theory is volcanic plug. (Though no volcanic activity has "ever" been recorded in the Baltic Sea, that doesn't mean there wasn't in the distant past.)

AlephZero

A Google search for "erratic boulders" turned up this one, which isn't a million miles away:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letipea.

Dotini

I like to think the best of people until proven otherwise. But it bothers me slightly that the photos are not obviously tied to the sonar scans.

I'd like to hear of the lab analysis of the specimen rocks removed to the surface. There are indications that the object could also be a large meteorite. Don't forget that there are two objects, both with "tracks" leading to a common point.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve

lisab

I'm not ruling out anything. I got an extra jolt of suspicion when I read,


A runway? Really? A bit of "leading the witness".... Sounds like hype to me.

Evo

It's a runway now, eh?