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| Jun22-12, 04:29 PM | #1 |
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A treatment for Cancer to replace Chemotherapy
Hello,
As far as I understand Chemotherapy intends to stop cancer growth and reduce it as much as possible as well as to destroy cancerous cells in the blood stream to avoid metastasis. Now, and again as far as I understand, if someone else cancerous cell would enter my bloodstream my antibodies would detect it as a foreign body and kill it. The question is, if we make cancer patients blood go through other people in a close circuit (it could be other cancer patients), would not everyone's antibodies destroy everyone else cancerous cells in their bloodstream? would not this act in a way like chemotherapy but without side-effects? |
| Jul1-12, 12:48 PM | #2 |
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yeah you solve the whole cancer in the blood stream issue but the not cancer that arent not in the blood stream, which is where most cancers/tumors are. Where are they? they are usually where your normal cells/tissues are.
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| Jul1-12, 12:52 PM | #3 |
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| Jul1-12, 01:02 PM | #4 |
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A treatment for Cancer to replace Chemotherapy
you are thinking of the right solutions but metastasis can happen all the time. Even if your treatment works you have to have everyone be hooked up to the treatment at all times. And of course we are assuming the antibodies works and that your own body isnt rejecting someone else's antibodies, and also remember that the original tumor is still killing the person slowly.
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| Jul1-12, 01:08 PM | #5 |
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| Jul1-12, 01:13 PM | #6 |
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| Jul1-12, 01:24 PM | #7 |
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| Jul1-12, 01:26 PM | #8 |
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Cells can metastasize in other ways than the blood (think the lymph system). The treatment also doesn't make sense, you're trying to catch tumor cells at the point that they enter the blood stream but before it leaves the blood stream? What if it has already spread undetectably?
Also, did you think about what would happen to the non-cancerous cells in the blood? I have a better suggestion: many research groups have been looking at cancer vaccinations, where the patient's own immune cells are trained to recognize the tumor. You should investigate this line of research if you're interested. Cancer vaccines: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...ancer-vaccines Dendritic cell therapy: http://cancer.stanford.edu/research/...dendritic.html |
| Jul1-12, 04:28 PM | #9 |
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Thank you for your answer. |
| Jul2-12, 08:48 AM | #10 |
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| Jul2-12, 04:10 PM | #11 |
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Well, the idea is that the "donor" kills the cancerous cells in his body with his antibodies, I expect this antibodies will not survive once they go back inside the patient's body. The idea thus is to kill anything in the blood that is not blood while transiting through the "donor" And I mentioned this for cancer but it could be used as well other diseases like viral ones; e.g. someone cannot successfully fight an infection and you cycle that person's blood through someone that has passed that infection and his/her immune system can fight it very efficiently. So I am aware that if we don't do this already is because it doesn't work, but I just can't see why. |
| Jul2-12, 04:16 PM | #12 |
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| Jul2-12, 04:24 PM | #13 |
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So, what you are saying is that even if both subjects are absolutely compatible in every medical way, the fact that they are connected to each other in a close circuit would kill them both because Alice's antibodies will attack Bob and Bob's antibodies will attack Alice? Do I understand you correctly? |
| Jul2-12, 04:31 PM | #14 |
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Antibody therapy of cancer Andrew M. Scott, Jedd D. Wolchok & Lloyd J. Old http://www.nature.com/nrc/journal/v1...l/nrc3236.html |
| Jul2-12, 04:45 PM | #15 |
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Edit: Thanks for the link by the way. |
| Jul2-12, 04:51 PM | #16 |
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| Jul2-12, 04:54 PM | #17 |
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How about with an infection? If Bob's has already developed the antibodies for a dangerous virus and we suspect Alice might have it, would connecting Bob and Alice help in any way Alice? |
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