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Aug10-12, 12:16 PM   #1
 
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Don't want your kid learning about the evils of evolution? Move to Missouri!


A few day's ago, the great state of Missouri passed Amendment 2 which has a clause that specifically states

that no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2012...fulltext_1.pdf

Along with other religiously inspired text that was mostly already covered under existing law.
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Aug10-12, 12:32 PM   #2
 
In other words, if the student doesn't want to learn about evolution, the student doesn't have to.

What happens when a kid claims all of the subjects other than gym class violate his religious beliefs?
Aug10-12, 12:40 PM   #3
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Well, there will be an ever widening gap between the educated and the uneducated.

How is a teacher supposed to teach a class if every student claims something is against their religion? Will classes be divided by religion now? "Fundamental Christian Earth myths 101? Or will the kids that have parents that oppose a subject have their kids excused from classes?
Aug10-12, 12:48 PM   #4
 

Don't want your kid learning about the evils of evolution? Move to Missouri!


Ahh good, this goes way beyond Evolution and allows me to skip pretty much my entire Geology class, good deal!

Also, being able to round Pi to 3 is going to make Trig a snap!
1 Kings 7:23
"And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
Aug10-12, 01:05 PM   #5
 
Also, being able to round Pi to 3 is going to make Trig a snap!
And any history beyond 6000 years ago can be dropped, since nothing existed before that.

This is what happens when you let people with an improper education make decisions on education.

Look at the wording of that thing. When they say students can worship "Almighty God", they're talking about a specific god. How hard is it to keep religion out of politics? Just say "their god" or something like that, why involve an obviously biased opinion into it?
Aug10-12, 01:51 PM   #6
 
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Quote by leroyjenkens View Post
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This is what happens when you let people with an improper education make decisions on education.

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The sad thing is there are still a substantial amount of educated1 people who believe in fairy tales as well. I don't know what else to call it besides intentional delusion in an effort to avoid cognitive dissonance.

1 read: degree-holding
Aug10-12, 04:21 PM   #7
 
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Well, there will be an ever widening gap between the educated and the uneducated.

How is a teacher supposed to teach a class if every student claims something is against their religion? Will classes be divided by religion now? "Fundamental Christian Earth myths 101? Or will the kids that have parents that oppose a subject have their kids excused from classes?
I'm curious if we aren't seeing an attempt to establish some kind of theocracy. There seems to be a great deal of theocratic sounding propaganda out there. Just look at the republican lineup this year and what it had to say.
Aug10-12, 04:34 PM   #8
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How will these kids be able to pass the exit exam from High School? Common subjects rejected due to religion are the sciences, history, English Literature, even art and music.
Aug10-12, 04:43 PM   #9
 
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How will these kids be able to pass the exit exam from High School? Common subjects rejected due to religion are the sciences, history, English Literature, even art and music.
If they can opt out of a class, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to opt out of a test.
Aug10-12, 06:38 PM   #10
 
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Let's look on the bright side of things: this means there will be less competition for me once I start applying for college.
Aug10-12, 06:51 PM   #11
 
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Let's look on the bright side of things: this means there will be less competition for me once I start applying for college.
And then you realize the consequences when this generation becomes a part of society.
Aug10-12, 07:07 PM   #12
 
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Well, there will be an ever widening gap between the educated and the uneducated.

How is a teacher supposed to teach a class if every student claims something is against their religion? Will classes be divided by religion now? "Fundamental Christian Earth myths 101? Or will the kids that have parents that oppose a subject have their kids excused from classes?
Perhaps Florida has a solution:


That amendment strikes a constitutional ban on funding for "sectarian" schools and adds new language prohibiting the government from denying "benefits of any program, funding, or other support" because of religious identity or belief.

Although it's called the "Religious Freedom" amendment, the ACLU and others say it would open the floodgates for taxpayer funding of religious social programs and schools.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...igious-freedom
Aug10-12, 07:36 PM   #13
 
The arrogance of this forum astounds me. I'm done posting or frequenting here. Have a good day.
Aug10-12, 08:39 PM   #14
 
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The arrogance of this forum astounds me. I'm done posting or frequenting here. Have a good day.
The topic can effect America for generations. I don't think it's arrogant to challenge the merit of this power grab currently underway by the christian-right.
Aug10-12, 09:36 PM   #15
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The topic can effect America for generations. I don't think it's arrogant to challenge the merit of this power grab currently underway by the christian-right.
Apparently he agrees with throwing education out.
Aug10-12, 09:50 PM   #16
 
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The arrogance of this forum astounds me. I'm done posting or frequenting here. Have a good day.
I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that this entire forum is arrogant, especially if your conclusion is based only on the posts in this thread.
Aug10-12, 11:47 PM   #17
 
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Apparently he agrees with throwing education out.
Well, the topic is a political hot potato because it involves religion; however, I brought it up because the trend is causing me a great deal of concern.

To quote Max Planck....

A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
Suppose the christian right doesn't have to win these arguments; instead, it controls the education of the next generation.
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