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| Sep7-12, 01:05 PM | #1 |
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First Order Differential Equation with Reflected Argument
I am trying to solve:
(x + 1 + f(-x) )(1 - f ' (x) ) = x+1 f(0) = x_0 x in (-1,1) I approximated it numerically but any analytic method I try fails. Any ideas? |
| Sep7-12, 08:09 PM | #2 |
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Hint: What do you get if you differentiate (x + 1 + f(-x) )? It should make you think of the chain rule.
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| Sep7-12, 11:57 PM | #3 |
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Ok, so I can make a substitution:
y(x) = x + 1 + f(-x). Then y ' (x) = 1 - f ' (-x). I don't see where to go from there, since y ' (x) does not appear in the original equation. However y ' (-x) = 1 - f ' (x) does appear in the original equation. If i make that substitution I get y(x) * y ' (-x) = x+1 But I still do now know how to solve that. Is my reasoning correct so far? |
| Sep8-12, 12:06 AM | #4 |
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First Order Differential Equation with Reflected Argument
Hmm.. yes I was too quick - I thought the minus sign would not be a problem.
However, you can at least try making an assumption about y(-x) and see if it produces a solution consistent with the assumption. I.e., try y(-x) = - y(x), then try y(-x) = y(x). |
| Sep8-12, 05:24 AM | #5 |
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Judging from the numeric approximation, neither of those seem to be the case. I will try it and see what happens though.
I have tried many things. One thing I was considering was to use the cross correlation of f(x) with a conveniently chosen function, make a substitution, and use the Laplace transform to force the negative sign inside, then hope the inverse Laplace transform works out. That sounds really horribly complicated though. I have tried a series solution but it did not seem to result in anything worthwhile. Perhaps a solution does not exist. |
| Sep15-12, 11:54 PM | #6 |
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I finaly realised that f(x) might as well be separate functions for x> 0 and x < 0. so write g( x) = f(-x). obtain (1-x+f(x))(-g'(x)) = 1-x by swapping sign of x. Write orig equation as g(x) = expression in x and f'(x), then differentiate that to obtain expression for g'(x) and substitute in above. Now have 2nd ord (nasty) equation in only f and x. Not sure it helps much though.
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