Sick freak kills first-graders

Borg

The national news is reporting that the hard drive was removed and heavily damaged.

Astronuc

I read that in the media. We will have to wait for authorities to do their investigation. I also read the Adam Lanza used two bedrooms, and one was used to house his computer(s). Let's give them time.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/12...first-funerals

A comment on APM's (NPR affiliate) Marketplace stated that it will take months to sort out all the details.


Meanwhile - In memory of the victims

Rachel D'Avino, 29, was a behavioral therapist who had just started working at Sandy Hook Elementary, according to her obituary published in the Waterbury Republican American. She was finishing her doctorate, and her boyfriend was getting ready to propose to her on Christmas Eve. Just days before Friday's massacre, D'Avino's 27-year-old boyfriend, Anthony Cerritelli, had asked her parents for permission to pop the question to their daughter.

The funerals of Noah Pozner and Jack Pinto were held today. Peace be upon them and their families.
http://www.dariennewsonline.com/loca...to-4123833.php

Image of 12 of 20 child victims: http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Re...ONNECTICUT.JPG

Newtown Couple Vow to Live for Dead Daughter, Jessica Rekos
http://gma.yahoo.com/newtown-couple-...opstories.html

and neighbor, Gene Rosen, took 6 young survivors into his home
http://news.yahoo.com/neighbor-took-...205020443.html

Let me express my appreciation to JetBlue and Delta Airlines!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending...202004360.html


Kindly ignore the members of Westboro Baptist who plan to picket the funerals.

Curious3141

That has never been in question. The only salient point is how much damage can someone cause with a gun vs a knife.

It is true that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." But guns make it a whole lot easier for some people to kill a whole lot more people in a much shorter time.

Astronuc

This may be part of the answer. http://news.yahoo.com/gunmans-mother...010414000.html

BobG

Your statement that "a stabbing spree" killed 20 is incorrect. Five separate stabbing sprees in China in 2010 killed 20.

Other ways to commit these acts of violence can be deadly, but don't kill so many so fast.

Likewise, the deadliest (Michigan, 1927) included explosives. Yet they aren't used as often because they're harder to get than guns.

BobG

She received at least $240,000 a year in alimony.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...lanza/1774611/

SixNein

There is already an estimated 300 million guns in circulation. In a basic nutshell, the realistic answer is that making weapons less available is not an option.

We can however control the situation with bullets.

Borg

Just adding to the information. Unless he completely reinstalled the operating system and/or ran it past a large magnet before wrecking the hard drive, they should be able to recover a good amount of information. It will definitely take time though. I would guess that his internet trail will be the first thing that they'll try to piece together.
Really? Do those people have no shame?

Mentalist

Sympathy, prayers, etc..., doesn't do any thing. It's like saying, "I'm sorry for your loss." To a person that has lost someone, that comes off as empty and annoying (or at-least to me). We need to follow models that work and try for tight gun control laws. This isn't just going to stop because you're giving you're sympathy to the family in mourning.

I absolutely hate that these children were killed but without fierce action, this will just continue on and continue on.

Look what happens today, news breaks out over a family murder suicide. Weapon of choice? Gun.

3 year old accidentally shoots himself with a gun and dies which happened back in October, and a 4 year old, this past weekend shot himself in the face... More kids are killed at home, whether it'd be from an idiot killing them or from them accidentally shooting themselves. The weapon used is a gun.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oting/1775469/



People will try to find ways of committing acts of violence, that I don't disagree with. However, you're suggestion is, "don't blame the guns!" when the guns make it much easier for them to carry out those acts of violence? A person is not going to kill 20 people with a knife unless they are in a vegetative state, but even doing so it takes time and obvious skill with killing in order to do that. A person would have to be within striking distance and the attack must strike the target's vital organs in order to have a "successful" kill.

I don't want to see the conversation dissipate within a month and people just forget like Aurora, Colorado, and talk about "politicizing" the issue when bringing it up.

More kids are dying. 100+ died (under 11) in 2010 from firearms. They may not have all been shot at once, but over time the amount of deaths add up and if you brought that fact up, you'd be demonized for it as if you were the one killing those children.

IMP

At least some people are thinking about this logically:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

IMP

More common sense:

http://news.yahoo.com/tennessee-cons...-politics.html

Astronuc

"Our son had so much love to give to this world," Mark Barden said. "He was supposed to have a whole lifetime of bringing that light to the world."

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs...opstories.html

Evo

Seriously, this thread isn't about gun control. Please leave discussions pro or con guns out. The NRA plans to make some "major statement" as they call it next week, perhaps that will be something that gives enough new reasons to restart yet another gun thread. The talk of new bans on assault rifles is increasing in the media, so I'm also considering moving some of the "gun posts" to another thread, but it's always the same thing, flamewars start, thread gets closed. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I am still in the process of finding and cleaning up recent posts, but it's going to require editing which I don't have time for right this minute. So please save the "you deleted my post, but left his" for tomorrow, it is always possible that I will miss posts.

Thank you.

CAC1001

My apologies; edited my post.

Astronuc

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/n...-politics.html

Evo

Yes, the NRA plans to make a statement Friday.

Astronuc

http://gma.yahoo.com/siblings-sandy-...opstories.html