How much circuits knowledge is required for device physics?

In summary, taking more circuitry classes prior to graduation may be beneficial for someone intending to study physical electronics and device/semiconductor physics in graduate school.
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Hey everyone, I'm graduating with my bachelor degree in physics soon and intend to study physical electronics and device/semiconductor physics in graduate school. I've taken the standard undergrad physics curriculum (quantum mech, stat mech, electromagnetism, circuits, experimental physics) with an emphasis in solid state physics and electives in electrical engineering and materials science.

My knowledge in circuitry only consists of mostly basic semiconductor circuits with little design experience. Would it be beneficial for me to take more circuitry classes before graduating to prepare me for this field in graduate school?
 
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if you're going to design transistors and integrated circuit components, you should know how transistors are hooked up to become basic logic gates in digital electronics. like NAND gates, NOR gates, NOT gates, a simple RS flip-flop, a D flip-flop (a.k.a. a "latch" or a single bit of memory). maybe understand more logic techniques like implementing a Boolean expression with gates and deriving a Boolean expression from a truth table.

and, for analog electronics, you should know how a basic amplifier works, how a differential amplifier works, how transistors are used for active loads (instead of resistors) of other transistors, and how transistors are used for constant current sources for differential amplifiers.

maybe look into rectifiers and power supplies (like how a Zener diode is used as a voltage reference).

those would be the most fundamental of circuits where your devices are one layer lower in terms of primitivity.
 
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Knowing circuitry would be very useful. Though, this doesn't meana course. Reading papers like Elektor would be at least as good (well, I mean, far better). Books for amateurs exist as well, also better than a course.
 
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Basic circuit theory is enough. Dont need to know graph theory, state theory, transfer function, pole-zero etc stuff.
 
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In fact only KCL and KVL is enough. Rest is just material physics.
 
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I'm really suprised no one mentioned two port network theory.

If you are working with device physics in the manufacture of components how would you do without it?

A good start would be to look at manufacturers component sheets and make sure you can understand all the parameters presented and their method of measurement and the test circuit used.

For instance a few examples

Rise Time
Fall (decay) time
hfe
Tjc
Rth
Tristate output leakage current
ft
 
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@Studiot - Touche. Although you're right a detailed knowledge of two port network is not really needed. Isn't it? I mean the device specifications (hybrid parameters/model params) will always be there from the project spec. He just need to adjust the device so that the two port parameters come out correctly.
 

1. How does knowledge of circuits relate to device physics?

Understanding circuits is essential for understanding device physics because circuits are the building blocks of electronic devices. Device physics involves the study of how these devices work on a fundamental level, and circuits provide the framework for this understanding.

2. Do I need to have a background in circuits to study device physics?

While a background in circuits is certainly helpful, it is not necessarily required to study device physics. However, having a basic understanding of circuits will make it easier to grasp the concepts in device physics.

3. What specific circuit knowledge is needed for device physics?

To study device physics, it is important to have a solid understanding of basic circuit components such as resistors, capacitors, and inductors, as well as their behaviors in different types of circuits. Knowledge of circuit analysis techniques, such as Kirchoff's laws and Ohm's law, is also essential.

4. Can I learn device physics without ever studying circuits?

It is possible to learn some aspects of device physics without studying circuits, but a thorough understanding of circuits is necessary to fully comprehend device physics. Without this knowledge, it may be difficult to understand the underlying mechanisms and behaviors of electronic devices.

5. How can I improve my understanding of circuits for device physics?

To improve your understanding of circuits for device physics, it is important to study and practice circuit analysis techniques, such as solving circuit equations and analyzing circuit behavior. It may also be helpful to work on circuit-based projects or to seek guidance from a mentor or tutor who has a strong background in circuits.

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