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| Jan26-13, 03:30 PM | #35 |
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The expansion of time, probably ad nauseum...
Also consider that asking if time passes at the same rate requires a comparison with something else. If the whole universe experienced increased/decreased amounts of time dilation early in its history, how would we know? What would that even mean if everything experienced it? There would be nothing to compare against and say "Oh look, their clock is passing way faster than ours!".
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| Jan26-13, 03:40 PM | #36 |
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The reason I brought this up is because I thought I read that clocks near high mass / density objects appear to run slower. The universe was very dense especially shortly after the BB. Would such an effect change our measurement of, for example, the CMBR? |
| Jan28-13, 06:39 AM | #37 |
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Tanelorn
I was in no way disrespecting your comment. The original poster's moniker was Clue+less. Clue - None know as much as they would wish. |
| Jan28-13, 07:47 PM | #38 |
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Thanks murdstone for letting me know. As they say back home I am not so tup as to not know I am tup.
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| Feb3-13, 11:40 PM | #39 |
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| Feb4-13, 10:10 AM | #40 |
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Is the above equivalent to an obsever co-moving with the Hubble flow? I've heard that phrased used a few times to talk about a standard of rest. |
| Feb7-13, 11:29 PM | #41 |
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| Feb8-13, 11:13 AM | #42 |
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| Feb8-13, 11:46 AM | #43 |
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Recognitions:
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| Feb8-13, 11:58 AM | #44 |
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I just now saw your post, somehow missed it, earlier this week, when you posted. If an observer is moving relative to CMB, and sees a hotspot in a certain direction, then it will also be true that the distant galaxies will seem to be receding more slowly in that direction and have less redshift. So the Hubble law needs to be corrected for the observer's motion relative to the expansion process itself---ie relative to the "Hubble flow". He will see the galaxies receding a little more RAPIDLY in the opposite direction, behind him. So the expansion process (or "flow") will have that asymmetry in the raw data caused by the observer's motion RELATIVE TO THE AVERAGE BULK OF THE MATTER OF THE UNIVERSE. So even before people had detected the CMB, and had the idea of being at rest with it, they already had noticed the asymmetry caused by the solar system's own motion and they had gotten this idea of compensating for that, and seeing the universe from the perspective of rest relative to the universe's own expansion process. In a sense you could say that "at rest w.r.t. the Hubble flow" is the more traditional older way of saying at rest w.r.t. CMB. |
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