Pressure Vessels: Calculating Stresses for Spherical Pressure Vessels

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of stresses in spherical pressure vessels, particularly when there is a higher inside pressure compared to the outside pressure. Participants explore various formulas and theoretical considerations related to the stresses experienced by the material of the vessel.

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  • One participant asks for the formula to calculate stresses in a spherical pressure vessel under differential pressure conditions, expressing an expectation of tensile stress.
  • Another participant provides a formula for circumferential and hoop stresses: σ = &frac{pd}{4t}, where p is pressure, d is inner diameter, and t is wall thickness.
  • A third participant notes that while the formula provided is common in textbooks, actual design must adhere to specific pressure vessel codes, such as the ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel codes in the US, which dictate a different formula for shell thickness: t = PR / (2SE - 0.2P).
  • Another participant introduces a theoretical perspective, questioning whether the integral of the trace of the classical stress-energy tensor is zero for the entire pressure vessel, suggesting that it simplifies to zero when considering both the interior and shell stresses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate formulas to use for calculating stresses in spherical pressure vessels, with some advocating for textbook formulas and others emphasizing the importance of adhering to regulatory codes. The theoretical inquiry regarding the stress-energy tensor remains an open question without consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of regulatory compliance in pressure vessel design, as well as the distinction between theoretical and practical approaches to stress calculations. There are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of the stress-energy tensor analysis.

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What is the formula for the stresses in a spherical pressure vessel? Specifically, one that has a higher inside pressure than an outside pressure. I'd expect the material to be in tension, but I don't know how to calculate the magnitude.
 
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pervect said:
What is the formula for the stresses in a spherical pressure vessel? Specifically, one that has a higher inside pressure than an outside pressure. I'd expect the material to be in tension, but I don't know how to calculate the magnitude.

for spherical its :

[tex]\sigma=\frac{pd}{4t}[/tex]

([tex]p[/tex] pressure, [tex]d[/tex] inner diameter, [tex]t[/tex] wall thickness) for both circumferential & hoop components.
 
The formula provided by Perennial is the one most commonly provided by textbooks. But if you're designing a "pressure vessel" (which has a legal definition in most countries) then you need to use the formulas provided by that country's pressure vessel code. In addition, pressure vessels are inspected, tested and "stamped" or authorized for use by a governing body. In the US, that governing body is the "National Board" and the requirements are provided by ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel codes (ASME BPV).

Per ASME BPV, the equation to be used for spherical pressure vessels is:
t = PR / ( 2SE - 0.2P)
where
t = shell thickness
P = pressure
R = inside radius
S = maximum allowable stress
E = joint efficiency (for shells fabricated from more than 1 section)
 
I'm actually interested in a bizarre physics point, so the theoretical answer is fine.

I wanted to see if the intergal of the trace of the classical stress-energy tensor

(T_11+T_22+T_33)*dV

(dV = volume element) was zero for the entire pressure vessel (interior + exterior). It looks like it is.

For the interior of the pressure vessel

T_11 = T_22 = T_33 = P

so we have

volume*3P = 4/3 * Pi * (d/2)^3 * 3*P

For the shell

T_11 = T_22 = P*d/4*t

so we have volume*2*(P*d/4*t) = 4*Pi*(d/2)^2*t*2*(P*d/4*t)

both of which simplify to Pi*d^3*P/2, and since one is pressure and the other is tension, the sum is zero.
 
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