Solve Impulsive Motion Problem: Initial Velocity 9m/s, uk=.3, Theta=20 Deg

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The problem involves calculating the time for a block to reach zero velocity given an initial velocity of 9 m/s, a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.3, and an incline angle of 20 degrees. Participants are exploring the application of impulse and momentum principles in this context.

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Multiple participants have arrived at the same time of 1.47 seconds, while one participant believes the correct answer should be 0.963 seconds. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem setup and calculations, with some participants suggesting that the source material may contain an error.

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Participants reference a specific textbook problem and express uncertainty about the correctness of the provided answers. There is a mention of different results for a related scenario where the incline angle is zero degrees.

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Problem:

The initial velocity of block A is 9m/s. Knowing that uk=.3 Determine the time for the block to reach zero velocity. When (theta)=20 deg.

Here is my work so far.

mv_1+Imp_1,2=mv_2

Imp_1,2=Ff(t)+sin(theta)W(t)
Ff=Cos(theta)uk(mg)
W=mg
Imp=9.81cos(20).3m+9.81sin(20)m
Imp=6.12mt

9m+6.12mt=0
t=1.47s


This answer is Wrong It Should Be .963s

What Have I Missed?
 
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Strange, i get the exact same answer 1.47

marlon
 
[tex]v_x = v_i -g(0.3cos(20)+sin(20))t[/tex]
[tex]v_y = 0[/tex]

X is along the incline and y perpendicular to it. I get the same answer using a different approach. Are you sure it's not 1.47 ?

marlon
 
Yes, I did place the positive x-axis in the direction of movement, but it really should not matter because I am using the Principle of Impulse and Momentum.
(a) part was finding the time taken if (theta)=0deg. (3.06s I got this one right)
So I know my method works. There is just something I am missing.

The problem is from Beer and Johnston;
VECTOR MECHANICS for ENGINEERS:STATICS and DYNAMICS 7th Ed.
problem 13.124
For anyone who knows the book. (They may have made a mistake but i doubt it.)
 
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The answer for part (a) is .306 or is is 3.06?
 
My bad, 3.06s
 
OK, so for 0 degrees I get 3.06 s

and for 20 degrees I get 1.47 s

I think the book is wrong
 
If you take the angle to be zero, my method also gives 3.06, just plug in that value into the equation for v_x

marlon

ps : i think there must be a mistake here. Perhaps someone else can double check this problem ?

Dexter, Doc Al, what do you get ??
 
marlon said:
Dexter, Doc Al, what do you get ??

1.47s is correct. Using "impulse/momentum" is a perfectly OK way to solve this problem; it is equivalent to finding the acceleration and then using kinematics.
 
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