Bessel's Equation Solution Proof

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Bessel function J(x) from Bessel's differential equation. Participants seek resources and proofs related to Bessel functions, including first, second, and Hankel functions, and express varying levels of understanding regarding the derivation process.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a proof of the J(x) function starting from Bessel's differential equation and seeks online resources for detailed study.
  • Another participant questions the phrasing of "proving a function" and asks for clarification on the request.
  • Links to external resources, including MathWorld and a previous thread, are provided by participants as potential references.
  • There is a suggestion to derive the Bessel ODE using power series and adjust the series to resemble Bessel functions.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of posting the differential equation and any attempts made so far, suggesting that others can assist with specific difficulties.
  • It is noted that J(x) is defined as the solution to Bessel's equation, and that the power series representation can be proven using Frobenius' method.
  • Some participants recommend books that cover Bessel's ODE and related concepts, highlighting their usefulness for understanding the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the clarity of the original request and the best approach to derive the Bessel function. There is no consensus on a single method or resource, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the derivation process.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need for LaTeX formatting for mathematical expressions, indicating a limitation in communication for those unfamiliar with it. Additionally, there are references to various resources that may not provide complete derivations, leaving gaps in understanding.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the mathematical foundations of Bessel functions, those seeking resources for studying differential equations, and individuals looking for assistance in mathematical derivations may find this discussion beneficial.

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hi there ,

i need the proof of the j(x) function starting from Bessel's Differential Equation .

and if anyone has any Online free book , or research on Bessel for first , second and Hankel in DETAILS , please tell me about it .

Thanks .
 
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"Proving a function" is nonsensical -- what are you trying to ask?
 
Hurkyl said:
"Proving a function" is nonsensical -- what are you trying to ask?

I mean the derivation of the Differential bessel equation
in order to end with J(x) .
 
U mean how to get the Bessel ODE starting from where?

Daniel.
 
hi_mostafa said:
I mean the derivation of the Differential bessel equation
in order to end with J(x) .


I think you mean: starting with Bessel's ODE, and using power series, and all of the tough work adjusting the series to look like the Bessel functions.
 
saltydog said:
I think you mean: starting with Bessel's ODE, and using power series, and all of the tough work adjusting the series to look like the Bessel functions.

exactly , as you said ,

any one help .
 
hi, mostafa:
Start with posting the differential equation, and show what you have done so far (preferably in the LATEX format).

There are plenty of us who know how this should be done, but it is forum policy (and beneficial to yourself) that you do most on your own, and that we help you at those particular places you're stuck.
 
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Actually, J(x) (more generally Jn(x)]) is defined as the solution to Bessel's equation. That J(x) is a certain power series could be proven using Frobenius' method.
 
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yes , but i don't know how to write latex .
 
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If u're going to keep posting math/physics related subjects here,please learn LaTex,it's not difficult.

Daniel.
 
  • #13
start with power series y=x^m(sigma an x^n)
 
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Hi friends,
I am struggling on the concepts of Fourier integral transforms.
Anyone who knew can sent to me.
thanks
 
  • #15
erwin kreziog advanced engineering mathematics book is very nice
 
  • #16
Another book that discusses neatly the Bessel ODE is Differential Equations by Lomen and Mark. It gives all basic details, definitions and theorems (without proofs) that are required to solve the problem. This book assumes that you have already done a basic course in Calculus are comfortable with concepts on Sequences and Series.
 
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dvs77 said:
erwin kreziog advanced engineering mathematics book is very nice

I had the same question...

I found this book online. Author is Erwin Kreysig.
Adavanced Engineering Mathematics. page 182.
Nice book! Thanks for the tip.

Wikipedia doesn't give any derivation.
Mathworld gives some more color but it's still rather foggy.
There's a soundless video on YouTube that explains a little more...


Yours,

Raj
 
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