What Are Some Sources for Quotes on Being an Educated Person?

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The discussion revolves around sourcing quotes related to the concept of being an educated person, specifically for an assignment in a writing class. Participants share various strategies and resources for finding quotes that include proper attribution, as well as personal insights and original thoughts on education.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is seeking quotes on what it means to be educated, emphasizing the need for sources to create an annotated bibliography.
  • Another suggests checking existing threads for favorite quotes and mentions that mentors may have relevant quotes in their signatures.
  • A participant shares a personal experience of difficulty in verifying the source of a quote from Alvin Toeffler, highlighting the challenges of sourcing quotes accurately.
  • Suggestions include searching for speeches related to education, such as commencement addresses and notable speeches by public figures.
  • One participant points out that court cases, like Brown v. Board of Education, contain significant statements about education that could be relevant.
  • Original quotes are offered by participants, showcasing personal reflections on education.
  • Resources like Bartleby.com and Wikiquote are recommended for finding quotes with detailed sources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of sourcing quotes accurately and share various methods to find them, but there is no consensus on a single best approach or resource. Multiple strategies and resources are proposed, reflecting differing preferences and experiences.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the reliability of certain sources and the difficulty of verifying quotes, indicating that the search for accurate attribution can be complex and time-consuming.

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This discussion may be useful for students, educators, and anyone interested in sourcing quotes related to education for academic or personal projects.

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I'm seeking a few quotes on "what it means to be an educated person" for an assignment I'm working on for my writing class. I have found a ton of really good ones online, but the problem is that they only list the author and not the source (book, interview, speech, etc.) and the source can be pretty hard to track down. :frown: The objective is just to use them so create a sample annotated bibliography, so I have to seek out the full details.

I thought I would ask you guys if you have any favorites you could share. I would greatly appreciate it if you have any suggestions.

And if you know of a website where I could find quotes with sources included that would be awesome, too!

Thank you! :!)
 
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You could skim through the quotes in the Favorite quotes thread. A few of the mentors also have some good ones along those lines for their sigs.
 
OK, thanks, I'll try that. But I think it will still be hard to "source" them. For instance I found a great quote from Alvin Toeffler, and I was able to guess that it was from "Future Shock" because I read the book a hundred years ago, but getting absolute proof that he wrote it in that particular book took several hours of searching.
 
Google on - "speeches","being educated"

For example - Speech by Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Pérez Roque delivered on Wednesday, March 16, 2005, at the 61st Period of Sessions of the UN Human Rights Commission in Geneva, Switzerland.

The Cuban people strongly believe in freedom, democracy and human rights. It took them a long time to achieve them and they are aware of their price. They are a people in power. That is the difference.

There cannot be democracy without social justice. There is no possible freedom if it is not based on the enjoyment of education and culture. Ignorance is the cumbersome shackle squeezing the poor. Being educated is the only way to be free! - which is the sacred tenet that we Cubans learned from the Apostle of our independence.

But that is not a quote - the speaker did not quote someone.
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Graduation speeches on Yahoo might help.

http://dir.yahoo.com/Education/Graduation/Speeches/
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Google on - "commencement speeches","being educated"

Some commencement speech quote on-line
http://home.comcast.net/~trevordodge/2005/06/transcript-dfwallace-kenyon.html
transcript of David Foster Wallace's commencement address at Kenyon College last month (May 2005).

Andy Rooney, Valedictory Address, University of Virginia, May 20, 2000
http://www.virginia.edu/majorevents/speeches/00valspeech.html
"Being educated is an end in itself, and it sets you apart from most of the people on the planet."
 
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Thanks, 'nuc! This is very helpful! Searching in commencement speeches is a great idea!
 
Ah, looks like Astronuc has a better idea.
Usually I am pretty good at tracking things down with Google but I could see where quotes might be more difficult.
 
For variety, you could also look in court cases and decisions regarding education. For instance, this is from the Brown v. Board of Education majority opinion:
Today, education is perhaps the most important function of state and local governments. Compulsory school attendance laws and the great expenditures for education both demonstrate our recognition of the importance of education to our democratic society. It is required in the performance of our most basic public responsibilities, even service in the armed forces. It is the very foundation of good citizenship. Today it is a principal instrument in awakening the child to cultural values, in preparing him for later professional training, and in helping him to adjust normally to his environment. In these days, it is doubtful that any child may reasonably be expected to succeed in life if he is denied the opportunity of an education. Such an opportunity, where the state has undertaken to provide it, is a right which must be made available to all on equal terms.
- http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=347&invol=483
Maybe that's not quite what you're looking for- just an idea. You can search http://www.findlaw.com/casecode/index.html for cases regarding education. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/obtainopinions.pdf lists places to find Supreme Court opinions.
I'll keep thinking. :smile:
 
I could give some of my original creations :biggrin:
How abt this one,
"Stupidity perserveres through the ages of learning, GOD couldn't have made us humans any more complex"
:-p

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P.S -> Dont hit me with torn slippers, new ones are preferred
 
I imagine these quotations books would include detailed sources:
http://www.bartleby.com/66/
http://www.bartleby.com/63/
http://www.bartleby.com/100/
They are also searchable. :smile: For instance, here's the first result from "education" search of http://www.bartleby.com/66/:
NUMBER: 35530
QUOTATION: What education is to the individual man, revelation is to the human race. Education is revelation coming to the individual man, and revelation is education that has come, and is still coming to the human race.
ATTRIBUTION: Gotthold Ephraim Lessing (1729–1781), German playwright, philosopher. The Education of the Human Race, sec. 1-2, 18th Century Philosophy, p. 225, ed. Lewis W. Beck, Free Press, New York (1966)
 
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oooh! Honestrosewater! Thank you - these are good finds. The Bartleby site actually gives the source!

Tenali- thanks for your efforts but I probably better stick with sources my professor is familiar with. :biggrin:
 
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TenaliRaman said:
I could give some of my original creations :biggrin:
How abt this one,
"Stupidity perserveres through the ages of learning, GOD couldn't have made us humans any more complex"
:-p

-- AI
P.S -> Dont hit me with torn slippers, new ones are preferred
Darn, you took my next suggestion! I was going to say some stuff on education and tell her to quote me. :smile:
 
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update: I was able to finish my assignment - so thanks a MILLION for your help! I could not have done it without your suggestions.
 
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