Maximum Height of Dropped Package in Helicopter Accident: 1279 meters

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a helicopter dropping a package while ascending. The participants are tasked with determining the maximum height of the package above the ground after it is released, given its initial upward velocity and the time taken to reach the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the use of kinematic equations to find the maximum height, questioning the initial conditions and the effects of gravity on the package after it is dropped. There is discussion about the initial upward velocity and the time it takes for the package to decelerate to zero velocity before falling.

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Several participants are attempting to clarify the correct approach to the problem, with some suggesting the need to account for the initial upward motion of the package. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct values to use in the kinematic equations, with some participants expressing confusion over the calculations leading to different height results.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including the initial velocity of the package and the time it takes to reach the ground. There is a noted discrepancy in the expected answer, prompting further investigation into the calculations and assumptions made.

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A passenger in a helicopter traveling upwards at 28 m/s accidentally drops a package out the window. If it takes 19 seconds to reach the ground, how high to the nearest meter was the helicopter when the package was dropped?

The answer I got for this is: 1237 (to the nearest meter)

This is not my problem however, the next question is, and it reads:

To the nearest meter what was the maximum height of the package above the ground in the previous problem?

I thought maybe I would use the distance formula again, with x=v0(t)+1/2at^2

The number I get isn't right…the answer is 1279.
 
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Well since the helicopter was traveling upwards, I would say the maximum height would be when the package was dropped. The helicopter was moving at a constant speed, meaning no acceleration. So once the package was released, the only force acting on it was gravity, making it head downward immediately.

That's my reasoning.
 
Remember that the package was traveling upwards at 28 m/s (this was initial velocity). So when the package is dropped, it still had some upwards motion. I need to figure out the distance covered from v=28m/s to v=0.
 
Ok. Sorry it's late. Use the kinematic equation you listed in your OP. Just make sure that you include direction, because the initial velocity and the acceleration are in different directions. It seems straightfoward from there.
 
What numbers would I be plugging in? If I plug in the 28, 19, and 9.8 I just get my first answer: 1237. 1237=28(19)-1/2(9.8)(19^2)

The answer however, is 1279.
 
Lucretius said:
What numbers would I be plugging in? If I plug in the 28, 19, and 9.8 I just get my first answer: 1237. 1237=28(19)-1/2(9.8)(19^2)
Nope. That is wrong. Why you choose t = 19s?
You know the plane is 1237 m above the ground, when the package is dropped.
The package will reach its maximum height when its velocity is 0. Because the package's initial velocity is 28 m / s. And it decelerates to 0 m / s. After that it will start to fall down. So when the package's velocity is 0, it reaches its max height.
How long does it take for the package to decelerate to 0 m / s?
Viet Dao,
 
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Oh, I get it now!

First I use v=v0+at, and find T=~2.9

then I reuse x=28(2.9)-1/2(9.8)(2.9^2). X=39.99999, aka 40. So I get 1277. I guess an error of 2m is acceptable.
 

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