Does Bohr Model Contradict Classical Physics?

In summary, the conversation discusses the compatibility of the Bohr model with classical physics. It is mentioned that the only assumption that violates classical mechanics is the idea of fixed circular orbits for electrons. The model adheres to classical physics but also adds additional limitations and conditions, such as requiring each electron to extend around the orbit to prevent energy radiation. The textbook authors often treat this as a restriction on allowed orbits rather than an explanation of an electron's behavior, and this does not foreshadow the deBroglie wavelength analysis.
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Yael
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a question asks if the Bohr model contredicts in any way classical physics.

i replied that only the first assumption that the electrons are fixed in circular orbits violates the laws of classical mechanics - of the idea of centripetal acceleration (?)
am i right to say that?
did i miss anything else? :-S
 
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What do you mean? The Bohr Model REQUIRES centripetal acceleration
(caused by electric attractive Force) to obtain these circular orbits.

The Bohr Model (as any other model) ADHERES TO classical Physics,
and imposes ADDITIONAL limitations, restrictions, or conditions ...
in particular, each electron must extend all the way around the orbit.
(otherwise the changing Electic & magnetic fields would radiate Energy.)

Textbook authors like to treat the "non-radiating electron orbit" statement
as a restriction on "allowed" orbits, rather than as describing an electron.
But in doing so, they hide the explanation of why some orbits don't radiate,
and they do not foreshadow the deBroglie wavelength analysis.
 
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Yes, you are correct in stating that the first assumption of the Bohr model, which states that electrons are fixed in circular orbits around the nucleus, contradicts classical physics. This is because in classical physics, electrons are expected to lose energy and spiral into the nucleus due to the emission of electromagnetic radiation.

However, there are other aspects of the Bohr model that are consistent with classical physics, such as the conservation of energy and the quantization of energy levels. In fact, the Bohr model can be seen as a bridge between classical physics and quantum mechanics.

Some other potential contradictions between the Bohr model and classical physics could include the concept of wave-particle duality and the uncertainty principle. These concepts were not fully understood or accepted in classical physics, but are integral to the Bohr model and quantum mechanics in general.

Overall, while there may be some contradictions between the Bohr model and classical physics, it is important to recognize that the Bohr model was a significant step in the development of quantum mechanics and helped to bridge the gap between classical and quantum physics.
 

1. How does the Bohr model contradict classical physics?

The Bohr model contradicts classical physics by proposing that electrons can only exist in specific energy levels or orbits around the nucleus, while classical physics suggests that electrons can exist at any distance from the nucleus.

2. What evidence supports the Bohr model over classical physics?

The Bohr model is supported by various experiments, such as the observation of discrete spectral lines in the emission spectrum of hydrogen and the explanation of the photoelectric effect, which cannot be explained by classical physics.

3. Can the Bohr model and classical physics be reconciled?

Yes, the Bohr model can be seen as a simplified version of quantum mechanics, which combines elements of both classical physics and the Bohr model to explain the behavior of particles on a subatomic level.

4. How does the Bohr model account for the stability of atoms?

The Bohr model proposes that atoms are stable because electrons occupy specific energy levels that correspond to their specific orbits, and they do not emit energy while in these stable orbits.

5. Are there any limitations to the Bohr model?

Yes, the Bohr model has limitations, such as its inability to explain the behavior of atoms with more than one electron and its failure to account for the wave-like properties of electrons. It has been replaced by more advanced models such as quantum mechanics.

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