Leibniz notation, need clarification

In summary, this conversation discusses the question of how Leibniz chose his notation and how to prove that the limit of a certain expression is equal to f''(x). The use of l'Hopital's rule is suggested as a possible solution. It is also mentioned that Leibniz did not have the same understanding of notation and proofs as we do today and that it is difficult to determine exactly how his notation evolved. The only way to find out would be to read his original works or works by competent commentators.
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Werg22
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This question comes from how Leibniz chose his notation.

How to prove that the limit when h goes to 0 of the expression:

[tex]\frac{f(x + 2h) - f(x + h) - [f(x + h) - f(x)]}{h^{2}}[/tex]

is f''(x)?


Step 1: We know that

[tex]\frac{f(x + h) - f(x)}{h} = f'(x) + a[/tex]

Where "a" is a value that can be as small as we want, in function of h.

Step2:

Also,

It has occurred to me that first we must prove that

[tex]\frac{f(x + 2h) - f(x + h)}{h}[/tex] can be written under the form

[tex]f'(x + h) + b[/tex]

Step 3: The last condition that must be fufilled is that the limit as h goes to 0 of the expression [tex]\frac{b - a}{h}[/tex] is 0.

Step 4: That way we start with

[tex]\frac{f(x + 2h) - f(x + h) - [f(x + h) - f(x)]}{h^{2}}[/tex]

We write

[tex]\frac{f'(x + h) + b - [f'(x) + a]}{h}[/tex]

We rearange so

[tex]\frac{f'(x + h) - f'(x)}{h}+ \frac{b - a}{h}[/tex]

Now it would be clear the limit is f''(x).

The real problem is to prove step 2 and step 3... I tried but nothing occurred to me. Anyone care to try/help? Thanks in advance.
 
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Assuming that [itex]f[/itex] is twice differentiable (which you must be already), just applying l'Hopital's rule twice to the original expression will get the result.
 
  • #3
Okay, I see. Did Leibniz had the notions of what Hopital's rule implies? If not, there must be another evidence that Leibniz fell upon. Any idea in that case?
 
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You can't fantasize in this way about the historical evolution of notation, Werg22!

To give you just a hint:
The notation f(x) was not at all developed at the time Leibniz chose his notation!
In fact, it was Euler, about 100 years after Leibniz who developed a proto-notation that eventually developed into f(x) in the 19th century.

Furthermore, proofs were generally something very different in the 17th century from proofs of today.

Apart from some solid arguments, most accepted proofs at that time is regarded as mere hand-waving in our time.


There are too many ways that a notation COULD have developed, making it IMPOSSIBLE to deduce how it actually came about.
The only way to find this out is to read the actual works by Leibniz, or better, works by competent commentators on Leibniz.
 

1. What is Leibniz notation?

Leibniz notation is a mathematical notation used to represent derivatives and integrals. It was developed by the German mathematician and philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz in the 17th century.

2. How is Leibniz notation written?

Leibniz notation for derivatives is written as dy/dx, where y represents the dependent variable and x represents the independent variable. For integrals, it is written as ∫f(x)dx, where f(x) is the function being integrated and x is the variable of integration.

3. What is the advantage of using Leibniz notation?

Leibniz notation is advantageous because it is concise and easy to use. It also allows for a clear representation of the relationship between dependent and independent variables in a mathematical expression.

4. Can Leibniz notation be used for higher order derivatives?

Yes, Leibniz notation can be extended to higher order derivatives by adding additional primes to the dependent variable. For example, the second derivative of y with respect to x would be written as d²y/dx².

5. Are there any other notations for derivatives and integrals?

Yes, there are other notations such as Newton's notation, which uses a dot above the variable to represent the derivative, and Leibniz's prime notation, which uses a prime symbol after the variable. However, Leibniz notation is the most commonly used notation for derivatives and integrals.

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