Can Asymptote Approximations Fully Construct a Bode Plot?

In summary, the person is asking if the vector sum of each asymptote can be used to construct the full bode plot when given asymptote approximations. They mention breaking up a polynomial into its constituent parts and adding them together to get the overall bode plot. They also suggest using accuracy points or plotting it exactly using software like MATLAB.
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Jimbo
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Hi

If you have asymptote approximations of a Bode plot - do you just find the vector sum of each asymptote to construct the 'full' bode plot?

I hope that makes sense

Any help much appreciated

Jimbo
 
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I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you talking about adding two Bode plots like when you have two transfer functions in series? Maybe you're breaking up the polynomial into its constituent parts; that's the same difference. When multiplying these terms together, the result is addition on the Bode plot. Say you have
[itex] H(s) = \frac{K(s+1)}{s} [/itex]

You can break that up into an integrater (pole at the origin), a zero at s = -1, and a constant (gain) multiplier K. Draw the Bode plot for each component and sum together to find the overall Bode plot.

If you're talking about getting the actual Bode plot from the straight-line approximation, that's a different question. You can put in accuracy points to help you draw the curves or you could plot it exactly using something like MATLAB.
 
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Hi Jimbo,

Constructing Bode diagrams involves plotting the magnitude and phase response of a system on a logarithmic scale. To answer your question, yes, you can find the vector sum of each asymptote to construct the full Bode plot. However, it is important to note that asymptotes are only approximations and may not give the exact response of the system. It is always recommended to also include the actual measured response of the system in the Bode plot.

In order to construct the full Bode plot, you can follow these steps:

1. Identify the transfer function of the system.
2. Convert the transfer function into a standard form (if it is not already in one).
3. Determine the break frequencies and the corresponding slopes of the transfer function.
4. Plot the asymptotes for the magnitude and phase response.
5. Plot the actual measured response of the system on the same graph.
6. Use a logarithmic scale for both the frequency and magnitude/phase axes.
7. Add labels and a legend to the graph for clarity.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your Bode diagrams!
 

1. What is a Bode diagram?

A Bode diagram is a graphical representation of a system's frequency response. It shows the magnitude and phase response of a system as a function of frequency.

2. Why are Bode diagrams important?

Bode diagrams are important because they allow us to understand how a system responds to different frequencies. This is useful in various fields such as control systems, signal processing, and circuit design.

3. How do you construct a Bode diagram?

To construct a Bode diagram, you first need to determine the transfer function of the system. This can be done using mathematical equations or by measuring the input and output signals. Then, plot the magnitude and phase response of the transfer function on a logarithmic scale using a graphing software or by hand.

4. What information can we obtain from a Bode diagram?

From a Bode diagram, we can obtain the system's gain, bandwidth, resonant frequency, and stability. We can also identify the type of filter or system based on the shape of the magnitude plot (low-pass, high-pass, band-pass, etc.).

5. How do you interpret a Bode diagram?

The magnitude plot of a Bode diagram represents the amplification or attenuation of the input signal at different frequencies. The phase plot represents the phase shift of the output signal compared to the input signal at different frequencies. Both plots can be used to determine the system's behavior and performance.

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