2010 Physics/Engineering/etc REUs and other summer research programs results

In summary, a group of students discuss their experiences with applying to and hearing back from various summer research programs. They mention programs in fields such as physics, materials science, and astronomy, and share their acceptances, rejections, and waitlist status. They also discuss the large number of applicants this year and speculate on the acceptance rates. One student mentions being accepted into their top choice and informing other programs of their decision, while another mentions receiving an offer and accepting it within a week. The conversation ends with a discussion about informing programs of one's decision and the potential consequences of doing so.
  • #1
soasrsamh
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone has heard back from summer programs in fields other than math. (Math REUs already has its own thread.)

I applied to:
-Science Undergraduate Laboratory Internships (SULI) NREL and Argonne
-Collaborative Undergraduate Research in Energy Program (CURE) at MassAmcrest
-Summer Undergraduate Research Experience (SURE) at Stanford
-REU Cornell Center for Materials Research
-Berkeley Center of Integrated Nanomechanical Systems (COINS) Undergraduate Research Program
-University of Maryland’s Materials Science and Engineering Center (UMD-MRSEC) Research Experience for Undergraduates (REU)
-Research Experience for Undergraduates (REU) at MIT’s Materials Processing Center (MPC)

I have only heard back from 3 of them so far COINS, CURE and Cornell's REU. (waitlisted, rejected, accepted-oh so happy!)
Apparently there were a ridiculous number of applications this year. COINS had 170 applications for 10 spots and CURE had 200 applications for 10 spots. I didn't realize these programs had only like a 5% acceptance rate. Isn't this like 4x lower than grad school admissions?

How is everyone else doing?
 
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  • #2
I know of at least one student who have heard about the SULI application (in physics), since I accepted him and he has accepted the offer.

And yes, this year, the number of applicants was huge. We get to choose from some of the best applicant pool that we can ever remember in years.

Zz.
 
  • #3
I applied to 8 places.

I got into:
Notre Dame (Physics)
Penn (Mat. Sci.)
Penn State (Mat. Sci.)

I got wait listed at:
Northwestern (Mat. Sci.)

Never heard back from:
Boston College (physics)
Indiana (Physics)
Wash. State (Physics)
UCSB (Mat. Sci.)

I think I am going to take Penn State. I heard from Northwestern that this year was the best year of applicants they have had so far. They had to pick like 15 people out of over 500 applicants.
 
  • #4
ZapperZ said:
I know of at least one student who have heard about the SULI application (in physics), since I accepted him and he has accepted the offer.

Actually SULI is the one that I'm most eager to hear back from. Are they really going to wait until April 1st to notify me? I'm just worried because I need to make a decision about Cornell before then. And just out of curiosity, how does it work? Does the admissions department send out all the applications that they received to potential mentors and the mentors choose the one they want?
 
  • #5
All the mentors at a particular lab have access to all applicants that select that lab either as a first or second choice within a particular field. So we get to see all of the applications for physics, let's say. I made my selection about almost 4 weeks ago, and within a week, we had an offer out, and within another week, the student accepted. This was 2 weeks ago, at least.

Zz.
 
  • #6
Will be [staying] at Cornell this summer doing an REU with the astronomy department. Numerical solving of the Einstein equations and what have you.
 
  • #7
applied to an ungodly number of programs. rejected from northwestern mat sci, uchicago physics, and austria/syracuse.

got into my top choice (its a secret... its an international program but not super prestigious like mit or harvard or something)
EDIT: I am not saying cause I am trying to keep myself a little bit anonymous...

i just sent a bunch of emails to all my other programs saying I am going to take my top choice. i kinda want to leave them just to see if i get int, but it seems mean to make them consider taking me when i won't take it.
 
  • #8
flemmyd said:
i just sent a bunch of emails to all my other programs saying I am going to take my top choice. i kinda want to leave them just to see if i get int, but it seems mean to make them consider taking me when i won't take it.

That would only get you OFF their list of consideration. I certainly would strike you off my list immediately if I get that kind of an e-mail.

When the crop is bountiful, like it is this year, action like that doesn't do you any good, and in fact, can backfire.

Zz.
 
  • #9
ZapperZ said:
That would only get you OFF their list of consideration. I certainly would strike you off my list immediately if I get that kind of an e-mail.

I think that's what he wants. He's been accepted into his top choice, and is going to take it, so is informing other programs he's applied to to be removed from the list. Quite thoughtful, to be honest!
 
  • #10
cristo said:
I think that's what he wants. He's been accepted into his top choice, and is going to take it, so is informing other programs he's applied to to be removed from the list. Quite thoughtful, to be honest!

In case of SULI, a student did not apply to a specific program at a specific location. The application comes in through the DOE office. So one really does not have a specific person or contact location to write to to do that. Besides, I'm guessing that there is a way for an applicant to indicate that they've accepted so that they are automatically of the list of candidates.

Zz.
 
  • #11
ZapperZ said:
In case of SULI, a student did not apply to a specific program at a specific location. The application comes in through the DOE office. So one really does not have a specific person or contact location to write to to do that. Besides, I'm guessing that there is a way for an applicant to indicate that they've accepted so that they are automatically of the list of candidates.

Zz.

Ah, I see, my mistake!
 
  • #12
all the programs i applied to were major university programs (like Mat sci @ northwestern, mat sci @ harvard, etc), rather than any govt type programs (SULI for example). i simply emailed the various offices in charge of each admission asking to be taken off as I already know where I am spending my summer.

i don't see what i did wrong? I am a little confused.
 
  • #13
And...rejected from MIT Materials Science REU.
 
  • #14
I've also heard back from SULI (at NREL), although it will be my second year so I might have heard earlier than others. However, they haven't sent out the email to all the interns yet, so they may still be making decisions, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
  • #15
Being a freshman, I am pretty new to this REU thing, so I have a couple of questions about it.

I know I have missed the deadline to apply (obviously because everyone is starting to get their acceptance letters), but what is the minimum math I should take before considering applying to one next year?

When should I begin sending my applications out?

Who pays for this? Is there any financial aid available for any of these REUs? I'm kind of on my own to pay for school, so if mommy and daddy are supposed to flip the bill, I guess I can just not even worry about it. But stuff like transportation to the colleges, and I'm sure these camps aren't free, as well as room and board, food, etc. This would probably be my main question.

Thanks.
 
  • #16
sydneyfranke said:
Being a freshman, I am pretty new to this REU thing, so I have a couple of questions about it.

I know I have missed the deadline to apply (obviously because everyone is starting to get their acceptance letters), but what is the minimum math I should take before considering applying to one next year?

When should I begin sending my applications out?

Who pays for this? Is there any financial aid available for any of these REUs? I'm kind of on my own to pay for school, so if mommy and daddy are supposed to flip the bill, I guess I can just not even worry about it. But stuff like transportation to the colleges, and I'm sure these camps aren't free, as well as room and board, food, etc. This would probably be my main question.

Thanks.

Usually they are paid for by the school or funded by an organization like the NSF. So essentially they are usually free to you, except maybe food. Most of the places will pay for lodging as well. The draw back is they are usually highly competitive to get into. I applied to 12, & had one phone interview so far. The rest have been completely silent. In perspective I've taken all mathematics up to abstract algebra, & with physics I've taken modern, electromagnetics, mathematical physics, quantum mechanics. The only B I've gotten so far was in discrete mathematics & sociology. I've been told my recommendations were very strong. I only list this information to show how competitive these programs really are. Granted I do come from a school with a small physics department though. Most deadlines are early Feb. to early March. Some really competitive programs are even sooner.
 
  • #17
Just accepted an offer from a small program. I'm very happy with the project I was assigned even though it'll be quiet challenging.
Some info.
Cornell Astronomy - about 200 applications (rejected)
Lehigh - over 550 applications

I think a lot of the astronomy/astrophysics programs are still deciding though. If people are still looking for REU, I know Case Western's deadline is 3/20. I also heard through the grape vine that LSU will soon be announcing their REU program if you keep checking their website.
 
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  • #18
Some random data points:

I applied to UC Davis, UWash, U Wash State, William and Mary, U Rochester, SULI (Berkeley and Brookhaven), and the PPPL NUF program (all for physics). I was offered a position at U Rochester early February but declined and have also been offered a position for the NUF program (which I am sitting on now). I haven't heard back from anywhere else. I also applied to Georgia Tech's math REU (which is where I am a student at) but the deadline to apply for that was today so they probably haven't done much yet.
 
  • #19
applied to a bunch of physics and materials science programs.

rejected by-
national nanotechnology infrastructure network
optics in paris through the university of michigan
accepted by-
materials science at georgia tech
plasma physics NUF at General Atomics in san diego

haven't heard back from about 8 other places. I'm waiting to see if I hear back from any others by friday. if not, I'm going to Georgia tech, i think.
 
  • #20
I applied to 18 summer programs (11 REU, 3 NASA, 2 DOE, 2 Misc). The REU and DOE applications were all geared towards nuclear/quantum projects.

Results (so far):
Rochester-Accepted (quantum optics)
Indiana-Accepted (particle)
Suli-Accepted (exp. neutron)
Duke Tunl-Accepted (exp. nuclear)
MSU-Accepted (nuclear)
JPL-Accepted

It was a really tough decision, but I ended up going with the Suli internship based on the type of project and the positive communication I had with the project leader.
 
  • #21
Accepted into Dartmouth Nanomaterials REU
Rejected by Michigan Chemistry REU
still waiting from Northwestern MRSEC, NSEC, UCLA Nanocer, and UCI Chem-SURF
 
  • #22
I'm a freshman physics major at a relatively unknown liberal arts school, and I applied very late in the season, and slightly past the due date on one or two. I feel very lucky to have gotten into one, my top choice even!

Rejected:
Boston College Physics REU
Texas Christian University Physics & Astronomy REU
NASA USRP REU

Waiting:
Louisiana State University Physics & Astronomy REU

Accepted:
Harvard Materials Science & Engineering REU
 
  • #23
chickenwing71 said:
I'm a freshman physics major at a relatively unknown liberal arts school, and I applied very late in the season, and slightly past the due date on one or two. I feel very lucky to have gotten into one, my top choice even!

Rejected:
Boston College Physics REU
Texas Christian University Physics & Astronomy REU
NASA USRP REU

Waiting:
Louisiana State University Physics & Astronomy REU

Accepted:
Harvard Materials Science & Engineering REU

It's funny how you can get rejected from all the poor schools yet be accepted into Harvard... REU admissions really are a roll of the die. I'll be at Cornell's program this summer.
 
  • #24
Rejected:
Northwestern MRSEC
Berkeley COINS
Cal SUPERB-CSIS
DoE SULI
University of Oregon Materials Science REU
Wooster Physics REU
UNLV REU
SRI International REU

Waiting:
SIU Carbondale
Cornell Materials Science

Accepted:
PPPL NUF REU @ General Atomics
UCLA Applied Math REU

There were 2 or 3 more I applied to that I can't remember at the moment, but I stopped paying attention after I was admitted to the last two. I already chose the PPPL one even though its start date collides with my finals week; a package from them came in the mail with plasma notes and a HW set that made me want to burn my current quantum problem set.
 
  • #25
I applied for my first pick first, and started on my application for the second one. Before I could finish requesting letters of rec for the second one, I was accepted into my first pick (it took all of 2 days to be accepted), so I didn't actually apply for any more (I made sure my first pick had NSF funding and was not waiting for it before making the choice to not apply).

And for those feeling down heartened, scour the web now, there is usually one or two REUs that have, due to different reasons, pushed by their deadlines till May. Last year, after being rejected by every one I applied to (I probably didn't have enough classes under my belt yet), I still found one that wasn't due till May 15th (which I was also rejected from :(, but the point is there is still hope).

A hint is to try to look through email servers for mentions of REU's (this is not illegal, all you do is do a google search on the terms "RE:, re:, Re: FWD: Fwd: ..." and terms such as "REU, extended, extend, deadline, May, June ..."
 
  • #26
I got into SULI at Berkeley National Lab. Stupidly, it's the only one I applied to.
 
  • #27
I only applied to an internship at Kennedy Space Center and got it...
 

1. What are REUs and summer research programs?

REUs (Research Experience for Undergraduates) and summer research programs are opportunities for undergraduate students to participate in hands-on research projects in various fields such as physics, engineering, and other sciences. They are typically funded by government agencies or private organizations and provide students with valuable research experience and exposure to cutting-edge scientific work.

2. How can I find REUs and summer research programs?

There are several ways to find REUs and summer research programs. You can search online databases such as the National Science Foundation's REU site, check with your university's science departments, or reach out to professors in your field of interest. Additionally, professional organizations and conferences often have information about summer research opportunities.

3. What are the benefits of participating in an REU or summer research program?

Participating in an REU or summer research program can provide several benefits. These include gaining hands-on research experience, developing critical thinking and problem-solving skills, networking with professionals in your field, and potentially publishing your work in a scientific journal. Additionally, these programs can make you a more competitive candidate for graduate school or future job opportunities.

4. What should I look for in an REU or summer research program?

When considering an REU or summer research program, it's important to look for programs that align with your research interests and goals. You should also research the program's funding source, location, and duration, as well as the qualifications of the program's mentors and the support and resources provided to participants.

5. How can I increase my chances of being accepted into an REU or summer research program?

To increase your chances of being accepted into an REU or summer research program, you should have a strong academic background in your field of interest, demonstrate enthusiasm and passion for research, and have relevant experience or skills. It's also important to carefully review and follow the application instructions and to reach out to potential mentors for guidance and advice.

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