Yes, that is correct. The sequence is convergent for n>1, but not for n=1.

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In summary, the progression \frac{2n-3}{3n-5} is not monotonic, but it is convergent for n>1 with a limit of 2/3. The proof for convergence was shown by rewriting the progression in the form 2/3 + A/(3n-5) and using the limit definition to show that it is less than epsilon for n>1.
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Homework Statement



I got one progression [tex]\frac{2n-3}{3n-5}[/tex].

Is this monotonic and convergent?

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I tried an-an+1=1/(3n-5)(3n-2)>0

But for n=1 and n=2, we got 1/2 and 1, so I think that this string is not monotonic, right?

I think it is convergent because it got a=2/3.

[tex]|a_n-a|<\epsilon[/tex]

Am I right?
 
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Are you sure

[tex]
a_n - a_{n+1} = \frac 1 {(3n-5)(3n-2)}
[/tex]


is [tex] > 0 [/tex] for every [tex] n = 1, 2, 3, \dots [/tex]? :smile: Compare the result you
get from the formula above to the actual value of [tex] a_1 - a_2 [/tex].
You are on the correct track for proving convergence.
 
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Physicsissuef said:

Homework Statement



I got one progression [tex]\frac{2n-3}{3n-5}[/tex].

Is this monotonic and convergent?

But for n=1 and n=2, we got 1/2 and 1, so I think that this string is not monotonic, right?

I think it is convergent because it got a=2/3.

Hi Physicsissuef! :smile:

It would be much easier if you you rewrote it in the form 2/3 + A/(3n - 5). :wink:

If it's monotonic except for the first one or two, then you should say so.

It converges monotonically after a certain point. :smile:
 
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statdad said:
Are you sure

[tex]
a_n - a_{n+1} = \frac 1 {(3n-5)(3n-2)}
[/tex] is [tex] > 0 [/tex] for every [tex] n = 1, 2, 3, \dots [/tex]? :smile: Compare the result you
get from the formula above to the actual value of [tex] a_1 - a_2 [/tex].
You are on the correct track for proving convergence.

Yes, I am sure that it is correct, but as you can see for n=1 (i.e a1,a2), it is

1/(3-5)(3-2)
-1/2 < 0

and for n>1, it is monotonic.

tiny-tim said:
Hi Physicsissuef! :smile:

It would be much easier if you you rewrote it in the form 2/3 + A/(3n - 5). :wink:

If it's monotonic except for the first one or two, then you should say so.

It converges monotonically after a certain point. :smile:

So if I write
[tex]|a_n-a|=|\frac{2n-3}{3n-5}-\frac{2}{3}|=|\frac{3(2n-3)-2(3n-5)}{3(3n-5)}|=
|\frac{6n-9-6n+10}{3(3n-5}|=\frac{1}{3(3n-5)} < \epsilon[/tex]

So it is convergent, probably for n>1, because if n=1, [tex]1/3(3-5)=-1/6 < \epsilon[/tex]

Because of the fact that [tex]\epsilon[/tex] can't be negative i.e [tex]\epsilon > 0[/tex], it is convergent for n>1, right?
 

1. What is meant by monotonic progression?

Monotonic progression is a type of mathematical sequence where the terms either always increase or always decrease. This means that the values in the sequence follow a consistent pattern and do not fluctuate in value.

2. How is monotonic progression different from non-monotonic progression?

Non-monotonic progression is a type of mathematical sequence where the terms may increase or decrease, but not in a consistent or predictable manner. The values in a non-monotonic progression may fluctuate or alternate in value.

3. Can a progression be both monotonic and non-monotonic?

No, a progression can only be one or the other. It cannot be both monotonic and non-monotonic at the same time.

4. What are some examples of monotonic progressions?

An example of a monotonic progression is the sequence of natural numbers (1, 2, 3, 4, ...). Another example is the sequence of positive even numbers (2, 4, 6, 8, ...).

5. How is monotonic progression used in real life?

Monotonic progression is commonly used in economics and finance to analyze trends in data such as stock prices or inflation rates. It is also used in computer science to optimize algorithms and search for solutions in a consistent and predictable manner.

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