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wolram
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Evo said:You mean it hasn't had an accident yet?
SHAMEFUL!
It takes time to plan where an accident might happen.
Evo said:You mean it hasn't had an accident yet?
SHAMEFUL!
First off, you slice the belly from ribcage to privates, being certain to avoid the bladder and other bad parts (though from the British proclivity toward kidneys, you may not have as much trouble with that as I do). Once the abdominal cavity is cleaned out, you use a sharp knife to remove the diaphragm, you slash the throat to free the lungs and you reach up and haul out the lungs and heart. At this time, you should salvage the heart and the liver (from the abdominal procedure) and set those aside, and hose out the interior of the carcass. If the weather is cool enough (40-45 deg F), you should hang the venison for at least a few days, before butchering. I've done this since I was a kid, and it's pretty much paint-by-numbers once you've had a run-through. Or as you would say "and Bob's your uncle".wolram said:How do i clean one Turbo? you are welcome to some spine chops.
As you and I both know, the physical deformities of the animals and the attendant medical problems and chances for human infections from meats of this type are best assessed by a thorough examination of these muscles. Lax procedures in cases like this (especially when the general health of an introduced species is concerned) may risk lives. We have to be vigilant. OK, Moonbear gets half the sample. The roughly cylindrical muscles paralleling the spine must be overnighted to us so that we can ensure that the remaining meat is safe to eat. I'm not intimating that scrapie, bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or any other nasty stuff could have gotten a foot-hold in this introduced species, but we need to be sure.Moonbear said:Sorry, I didn't see your post before I spoiled it for you. Darn! Had I seen this first, I could have arranged to split it with you in return for keeping my mouth shut.
turbo-1 said:As you and I both know, the physical deformities of the animals and the attendant medical problems and chances for human infections from meats of this type are best assessed by a thorough examination of these muscles. Lax procedures in cases like this (especially when the general health of an introduced species is concerned) may risk lives. We have to be vigilant. OK, Moonbear gets half the sample.
Moonbear said:Yep, definitely important enough to require independent verification by a second study group. Wouldn't want to risk something so important on a single study in the event of a false negative. Of course, since there's one of those muscles on each side, we could each get one. It's the easiest way to divide it for shipping.
That's the way medical research is done. I won't disclose my testing methodology to you and you must not disclose yours to me. This blind comparison should serve to quell all the negative talk about the diseases borne by the barking deer, if we both come up negative. If not, we'll need more tissue samples to ferret out the truth.Moonbear said:Yep, definitely important enough to require independent verification by a second study group. Wouldn't want to risk something so important on a single study in the event of a false negative. Of course, since there's one of those muscles on each side, we could each get one. It's the easiest way to divide it for shipping.
And it's a <cough> aphrodisiac.Moonbear said:So, I can't remember which thread we were talking about sarasparilla in, but I decided I had to try it. I found a place that sells it and ships it, and I'm sitting here with a glass of it right now. Yummy! This is what I remember root beer tasting like as a kid! It's completely changed since then, and I hadn't realized how much until I started sipping this glass of soda and the memories just came wooshing back! While ordering, I also got some birch beer, white birch beer (never tried that...not sure if it'll be any different from the regular stuff), neither of which I can find in the local stores but really like, and ginger beer, since the same place sold that too and I've always wondered how that tasted too. If anyone else is just dying to try it, or misses it, here's where I got it from. http://www.kutztownbottlingworks.com/ (Turn the volume down on your speakers...their home page has some really cheesy music that's kind of loud and annoying.) The downside is shipping costs almost as much as the soda. But, now that I know it's good, I might just make sure it's on my route when I drive back to NJ to visit family (though, I need to verify they have an actual storefront somewhere too). This was definitely worth the splurge though (the poor UPS guy might disagree...that was one heavy box with all that soda in it).
Evo said:And it's a <cough> aphrodisiac.
turbo-1 said:Mmmm, birch beer. That was my favorite when I was a kid. It was red in color with a tinge of brown. I don't know that I would like it today if they've gone to corn syrup for sweetening, though. None of today's sodas taste like the old ones that used real cane sugar.
So typical! Noodles are cheap, and fresh vegetables and cheeses are relatively expensive. That recipe sounds very similar to stuff that my wife and I throw together. It's great to get fresh vegetables out of the garden and roast or saute them, then combine them with a sauce of cheap wine (but not the salted cooking "wines"!) herbs, seasonings, and serve over pasta with a shredded cheese - feta is OK, but I prefer Romano in most instances.Evo said:Great picture turbo!
Last night my older daughter spawn of Evo was going to come by and make dinner, but she'd had a fever all day, so she stopped at the noodle restaurant around the corner from my house and bought the "pasta fresca". This was penne pasta, roma tomatoes, baby spinach and onions sauteed in a sauce of balsamic vinegar, white wine, roasted garlic and fresh herbs, topped with feta cheese.
If was very yummy, but WAY too stingy with the spinach, onions and feta. I'd like to make a version of it using the right amounts of ingredients. I swear I only found 2 baby spinach leaves smaller than my thumb in a half pound of pasta. And that tiny measuring teaspoon of feta disappeared in the pile. The sauce was excellent though.
Start thinking "potato, carrot, cabbage, onion, garlic, meat" and start thinking of a meal that SOMEONE might have suggested a few times, not that I know a damned bit more than your favorite Alton/Raye/XXX advisors. Make real meals, and save and savor the left-overs. Take control.Evo said:There is no way I could even inhale the fumes from something that hot.
I've been living off of potato chips for 2 days now. They were on sale.
I need someone in my life that enjoys good food. The fruit bat is perfectly happy eating chips for dinner, so I have no reason to cook. I need someone to cook for, oooh, maybe I can find homeless people...
turbo-1 said:Wow! that does sound good, and I might try more than just potatoes in that. Sounds like a great place for sliced yellow onions and carrots, too!
Sounds like a good deal, but first tell me if you can practically inhale food when you taste something that you like. I'd have to charge you double if you can eat like Astronuc and/or his son. Those fellas can pack it away. :tongue2:wolram said:I will pay £500 for one weeks board and food.
Oh, yeah! Smoked oysters or smoked baby clams with sharp Vermont cheddar, mustard, and/or cream cheese and chili jelly on wheat crackers. When we have BBQ's or family get-togethers, hors d'oeuvres like this are standard. My nieces and nephews learned young that the green jelly was jalapeno, and the pretty pink jelly was habanero. Every one of them got the chance to explore. My sister and her daughters visited with their spouses last summer after one of the nieces got married and one had her first child. They and their husbands lugged off jellies and salsas, and one (precious) jar of habanero relish when they went home.Evo said:Smoked oysters and mussels. :!)
turbo-1 said:Sounds like a good deal, but first tell me if you can practically inhale food when you taste something that you like. I'd have to charge you double if you can eat like Astronuc and/or his son. Those fellas can pack it away. :tongue2:
Woolie, this will kick beef stew's butt over and over again, and it is TOO easy to make.wolram said:Boiled dinner? i guess if you say it is good it must be, i like beef stew with dumplings,
just so long as the dumplings are light and do not stick to yer teeth.
I am an ace berry picker, but need picture cards to identify weed from food.
turbo-1 said:Woolie, this will kick beef stew's butt over and over again, and it is TOO easy to make.
There are lots of things that my wife cooks better than I do, but she has ceded cooking these pot roasts to me (and the smoking of turkeys, making salsas, etc). I take the pan out to the side burner on the grill with just a thin layer of peanut oil on the bottom of the pan and sear the entire outside surface of the roast, previously rubbed with salt and black pepper, until it is well-browned and the meat juices have formed a caramelized brown glaze on the bottom of the pan. This is smoky work, so I do it outside. Then I take the pan back to the cook stove, dump in about a pint of cheap burgundy and about enough water to cover the roast, add powdered garlic and onion and bring to a boil. After the roast has simmered for about 3 hours or so, I throw in all the vegetables (turnip, carrots, potato, onion and some fresh garlic), and let them cook for about another hour and a half to soak up that dark juice and get the flavors combined. After removing the meat and vegetables, I keep the juice simmering and whisk in a solution of cool water and corn starch, until a nice rich gravy forms. And dinner's ON!
As long as you watch the liquid level in the pan (keeping the cover on is mandatory) you CANNOT blow this recipe. You can tinker with herbs (basil, parsley, oregano, etc) later, but try the basic recipe first. It's easy to make and tend on a rainy/snowy day, and you will have anew favorite meal. Use a very cheap cut of meat (beef shoulder roast is best IMO) and buy it on sale - you'll thank me.
That was only a suggestion. If I were to play with herbs with this dish (and I have) I'd go with a few torn-up leaves of fresh basil. :tongue2: I made this for my father when he came down for dinner last weekend, and kept it simple. Served with some home-made dill pickles and some yellow mustard on the side for the beef, it was great. We split the left-overs with him because he doesn't bother to cook much.Maria Porerro said:I it all, except parsley... =)))
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