Radiometric dating- creationism.org

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In summary, this article argues that radioactive dating is inaccurate and provides evidence from the Mount Saint Helens lava dome which gives varying dates. However, this issue has been addressed and debunked before, with the explanation that solidification of magma can incorporate older minerals, making the samples appear older. Additionally, the article's claims are further refuted by evidence of experimental error and the use of incorrect radiodating methods. Creationist arguments against radiodating are not valid and do not disprove the scientific evidence for the age of the Earth.
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http://www.creationism.org/articles/swenson1.htm

This article suggests that radioactive dating is horribly innacurate, and says that dating the recent rocks of the 80's Mount Saint Helens lava dome gives dates ranging from 0.05-2.8 million years of age.

I'm no expert on radiometric dating techniques, so the only explanation I can think of would be they accidentally sampled older rocks surrounding the recent dome.

Has this issue been seriously adressed and debunked before?
 
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Im actually surprised that site presents counter arguments to their own claim. They state:
"A good possibility is that solidification of magma does not reset the radioisotope clock to zero. Probably some argon-40 is incorporated from the start into newly formed minerals giving the "appearance" of great age. "

Which is the first thing that popped into my head. Where's the literature describing the effects of state transformation of the atomic composition of lava? You cannot assume the rock is "new" just because it turned solid.
 
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As far as i know, radiometric dating can be somewhat inacurate, but nowhere near the 1.000.000% that is needed to change the date of the Earth from 4.500.000.000 years to 6000 years. (or 3.5 billion yr old rocks to 6000yrs)
 
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http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD013_1.html

...sent his samples to a laboratory that clearly states that their equipment cannot accurately measure samples less than two million years old. All of the measured ages but one fall well under the stated limit of accuracy, so the method applied to them is obviously inapplicable. Since Austin misused the measurement technique, he should expect inaccurate results, but the fault is his, not the technique's. Experimental error is a possible explanation for the older date.

...samples were not homogeneous, as he himself admitted. Any xenocrysts in the samples would make the samples appear older (because the xenocrysts themselves would be old). A K-Ar analysis of impure fractions of the sample, as Austin's were, is meaningless.

Of course, creationists neglect this bit of info in their rhetoric.
 
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Different radiodating methods are used for different age-ranges and sample types. Using the wrong method is no proof against radiodating in general.
 
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Pffft. The creationist radiodating arguments help me understand why ancient pottery artifacts are so rare.
 

1. How does radiometric dating work?

Radiometric dating is a method used to determine the age of rocks and other materials based on the decay of radioactive isotopes. It works by measuring the ratio of parent isotopes to daughter isotopes in a sample and using the known rate of decay to calculate the age of the sample.

2. Is radiometric dating accurate?

Yes, radiometric dating is a highly accurate and reliable method for determining the age of rocks and fossils. Numerous studies and cross-checks have shown that the results obtained from radiometric dating are consistent and in line with other dating methods.

3. Can radiometric dating be used to date anything?

Radiometric dating is primarily used to determine the age of rocks and geological materials. It is not typically used to date organic materials, such as fossils, as the decay of carbon-14 is not a reliable method for materials older than 50,000 years.

4. How does radiometric dating support the theory of evolution?

Radiometric dating provides evidence for the gradual changes in species over time, as older rock layers will contain different isotopes and ratios than younger layers. This supports the idea that species have evolved and changed over time, rather than being created in their present form.

5. Can radiometric dating be used to determine the age of the Earth?

Yes, radiometric dating has been used to determine the age of the Earth to be approximately 4.5 billion years old. This is based on the decay of uranium-238 to lead-206, which has a known rate of decay and can be used to calculate the age of the Earth.

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