Trouble with integral and derivatives

In summary, to integrate -partial^2f/partialx^2 -partial^2f/partialy^2 in the variable x-y, we can use the chain rule and the fact that u= x-y and v= x+y. This results in -2f_u+ \Phi(v) as the integral, where \Phi(v) is an arbitrary function of v. If the problem only had one negative derivative, it would be related to the "wave equation" and integration with respect to x-y would result in four times the derivative with respect to x+y.
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I have to integrate

-partial^2f/partialx^2 -partial^2f/partialy^2

in the variable x-y

How to do this?
 
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The 'chain rule'. If u= x- y and v= x+ y then [itex]u_x= 1[/itex], [itex]u_v= -1[/itex], [itex]v_x= 1[/itex] and [itex]v_y= 1[/itex].

So [itex]f_x= f_u(u_x)+ f_v(v_x)= f_u+ f_v[/itex] and then [itex]f_{xx}= (f_u+ f_v)_x= (f_u+ f_v)_u+ (f_u+ f_v)v= f_{uu}+ 2f_{uv}+ f_vv[/itex]

Similarly [itex]f_y= f_u(u_y)+ f_v(v_y)= -f_u+ f_v[/itex] and then [itex]f_{yy}= (-f_u+ f_v)_y= -(-f_u+ f_v)_u+ (-f_u+ f_v)_v= f_{uu}- 2f_{uv}+ f_{vv}[/itex].

So [itex]-f_{xx}- f_{yy}= -(f_{xx}+ f_{yy})= -(2f_{uu}+ 2f_{vv})= -2(f_{uu}+ f_{vv})[/itex].

For x and y independent variables, u and v are independent so the integral of that, with respect to x- y= u is [itex]-2f_u+ \Phi(v)[/itex], where [itex]\Phi(v)[/itex] is an arbitrary function of v= x+ y.

(Did your problem really have "-" on both derivatives? With the derivative on only on variable, [itex]u_{xx}- u_{yy}[/itex], this is related to the "wave equation" and subtracting rather than adding gives [itex]4f_{uv}[/itex] and integration with respect to x- y= u gives [itex]4f_v[/itex], or four times the derivative with respect to x+y.)
 

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