Newton's Second Law & Moment of Inertia Derivation?

In summary, the conversation discusses Newton's Second Law and the experimentally determined moment of inertia. The equations used are F=m*a and s=(1/2)*a*t^2, and the goal is to derive an expression for the moment of inertia. There is a brief discussion about the use of mass effective and confusion about the equation involving gt^2/2s. It is clarified that calculus is a prerequisite for the course and the exact same system is being used in the lab and the problem.
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Homework Statement


We did something very similar to this in lab

http://webenhanced.lbcc.edu/physte/phys2ate/2A LAB HANDOUTS/Moment of Inertia.pdf

Use Newton's Second to derive the expression for the experimentally determined moment of inertia

Homework Equations


Newton's Second Law is F=m*a

s=(1/2)*a*t^2

Experimentally Moment of Inertia

I=r^2(m((gt^2/2s)-t) - mf)

Trying to get to this ^

mf= mass effective not much meaning just mass in kg
If it confusing the gt^2 is divided by 2s then it is subtracted by t and multiplied by r^2 and then minus mf

Torque= F*r= m*r*a

T= (mf + m)(g - a) = tension

The Attempt at a Solution



T= (mf + m)(g - (2*s/t^2))

T= (mf + m)((1/2)(a*t^2) - a)

T= (mf + m)(a((1/2)*t^2 - 1)

I am stuck write here
 
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Is calculus is a prerequisite for this course?
 
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Pythagorean said:
Is calculus is a prerequisite for this course?

yes it is Physics Calculus Based 2211K
 
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Calc may not be necessary.

So what's the physical system you're doing in this problem? Is it the same exact system as in the lab?
 
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Pythagorean said:
Calc may not be necessary.

So what's the physical system you're doing in this problem? Is it the same exact system as in the lab?

yes it is the exact same system
 

1. What is Newton's Second Law?

Newton's Second Law states that the acceleration of an object is directly proportional to the net force acting on it and inversely proportional to its mass. This can be mathematically expressed as F=ma, where F is the net force, m is the mass, and a is the acceleration.

2. How is Newton's Second Law related to moment of inertia derivation?

Moment of inertia is a measure of an object's resistance to rotational motion. It is directly related to mass, as stated in Newton's Second Law. The moment of inertia derivation uses this relationship to calculate the rotational acceleration of an object.

3. What is the formula for moment of inertia derivation?

The formula for moment of inertia derivation is I=mr², where I is the moment of inertia, m is the mass, and r is the distance from the axis of rotation.

4. How is moment of inertia derivation used in real-world applications?

Moment of inertia derivation is used in many real-world applications, such as in determining the stability and performance of rotating objects like wheels, propellers, and flywheels. It is also used in designing and analyzing machinery, vehicles, and structures that involve rotational motion.

5. What are the units for moment of inertia?

The units for moment of inertia depend on the units used for mass and distance. In the SI system, the units are kg*m². In the imperial system, the units are slug*ft². In both cases, the units can be simplified to the equivalent unit of mass times distance squared.

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