Why are mosquitoes and bedbugs successful?

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In summary: I don't know, but I suspect it is because it is not always necessary. In some cases, the irritation-causing compound might actually hinder the mosquito's ability to feed. For example, if the mosquito injects a compound that makes the victim's blood clot, then the mosquito might not be able to suck as much blood since the clot would block the mosquito's mouth. So it's possible that the irritation-causing compounds are detrimental to the mosquito's survival, even if they prevent blood clotting. So the reason must be that its cheaper for mosquitoes to be as they are as we are not the only ones in their diet!
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Hi all. Mosquitoes and bed bugs that dint give us an itch after being bitten would have had an enormous advantage over normal mosquitoes and bed bugs as we wouldn't notice or bother if we dint feel anything. By natural selection, these types of bugs would have had an edge over current bugs. I've come to know that the itching sensation is due to the compounds the bugs inject to prevent blood clot while they suck. So, why don't we have irritation-less mosquitoes and bed bugs? Is it because there isn't a compound that both doesn't irritate us and prevents blood clot or hasn't there been enough time for them to evolve?
 
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Many states jokingly call mosquitos their state bird. In my state, they come in such vast hordes that plenty of them get away, full of enough blood to spread progeny. For a sufficiently small crowd of mosquitos, many of us (not me, personally, I hate the bastards) just adapt to ignoring them. They also get us while we're sleeping.

Also, humans are extremely hygienic and picky, and have very exposed skin compared to most mammals; mammals like bulvines can also do little about mosquitos compared to humans. We aren't their only prey.

Evolution can be lazy to selection pressures. It doesn't have to perform at 110% if it's getting by with 10%. It's not a graduate student : )
 
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because we are! :biggrin:
 
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Pythagorean said:
Many states jokingly call mosquitos their state bird. In my state, they come in such vast hordes that plenty of them get away, full of enough blood to spread progeny. For a sufficiently small crowd of mosquitos, many of us (not me, personally, I hate the bastards) just adapt to ignoring them. They also get us while we're sleeping.

Also, humans are extremely hygienic and picky, and have very exposed skin compared to most mammals; mammals like bulvines can also do little about mosquitos compared to humans. We aren't their only prey.

Evolution can be lazy to selection pressures. It doesn't have to perform at 110% if it's getting by with 10%. It's not a graduate student : )
So the reason must be that its cheaper for mosquitoes to be as they are as we are not the only ones in their diet!
 
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One might argue that it's not a cheaper solution; just there's not enough evolutionary pressure to "push the ball over the hump" so it can "settle into the lower state". As long as it's in a surviving state, it doesn't have to always be the cheapest state.
 
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surajt88 said:
Hi all. Mosquitoes and bed bugs that dint give us an itch after being bitten would have had an enormous advantage over normal mosquitoes and bed bugs as we wouldn't notice or bother if we dint feel anything.
Your statement that there would be an enormous advantage is not correct, the mosquitoes are already successful in getting an animal's blood. At the point it starts itching the mosquito is already far underway in getting its meal.
 
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Monique said:
Your statement that there would be an enormous advantage is not correct, the mosquitoes are already successful in getting an animal's blood. At the point it starts itching the mosquito is already far underway in getting its meal.
We normally use mosquito repellents and other means to kill them most often because their bite irritates us. If we did not feel anything, why kill them (unless in malaria prone areas)? So it seems to me that it is an advantage for them to go unnoticed.
 
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That is a very anthropocentric point of view. One can place mosquito nets in a house or locally spray DEET, but then the mosquito can easily find another target. There are so many mosquitos that the few you repel really makes no difference on the population.
 
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Monique said:
That is a very anthropocentric point of view. One can place mosquito nets in a house or locally spray DEET, but then the mosquito can easily find another target. There are so many mosquitos that the few you repel really makes no difference on the population.
Right. That's what I wanted to know.
 
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surajt88 said:
Hi all. Mosquitoes and bed bugs that dint give us an itch after being bitten would have had an enormous advantage over normal mosquitoes and bed bugs as we wouldn't notice or bother if we dint feel anything. By natural selection, these types of bugs would have had an edge over current bugs. I've come to know that the itching sensation is due to the compounds the bugs inject to prevent blood clot while they suck. So, why don't we have irritation-less mosquitoes and bed bugs? Is it because there isn't a compound that both doesn't irritate us and prevents blood clot or hasn't there been enough time for them to evolve?

why do you think that such kind of bugs should exist. Do you think mosquitoe bites are harmless , how would the body react to such a bite. you should realize that the chemical released initiates a reaction in our body which we perceive as itching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insect_bites_and_stings
 
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Mosquitoes don't get a choice in the matter. The only natural selection that matters is that they can breed faster than we can swat them. We actually help them by leaving around items that collect stagnant water where a lot of them can breed. But even if we decided to eradicate everything that made us itch, they can't just suddenly develop a new way of feeding on demand. That's not how evolution works.
 
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Moonbear said:
But even if we decided to eradicate everything that made us itch, they can't just suddenly develop a new way of feeding on demand. That's not how evolution works.
No but what might happen is a mosquitoes might evolve that is slightly less itchy to us, allowing more of them to survive and breed. 'course this wouldn't likely happen unless humans comprised the lion's share of their diet.
 
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Moonbear said:
But even if we decided to eradicate everything that made us itch, they can't just suddenly develop a new way of feeding on demand. That's not how evolution works.

Was this referring to my post, if it is - i was not even talking about evolution. The OP was referring to itching which has less to do with evolution, than a simple chemical reaction that the body has to foreign substances. This occurs in variety of cases not just mosquito bites, also to to chemicals which we use daily.

Feeding is a different story, it can be achieved without producing the irritant substance (think leeches! :yuck:).They(Leeches) achieve by secreting a anticoagulant, can feed for days or months without even the host noticing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leech
 
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Monique said:
That is a very anthropocentric point of view. One can place mosquito nets in a house or locally spray DEET, but then the mosquito can easily find another target. There are so many mosquitos that the few you repel really makes no difference on the population.

Agree with the comment 'That is a very anthropocentric point of view.'
 
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My sister, a year or two ago, mentioned to me a theory she read about: mosquitos don't evolve to be less annoying because it helps their species overall. The action of slapping at mosquitos brings more blood to the surface area where they feed on animals, and so even if a few members of the population die from it, as a whole they feed better.
 
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thorium1010 said:
Feeding is a different story, it can be achieved without producing the irritant substance (think leeches! :yuck:).They(Leeches) achieve by secreting a anticoagulant, can feed for days or months without even the host noticing.
Actually mosquitoes also release an anticoagulant and as far as I'm aware leech bites itch after the fact too. The itching from a bite does not occur whilst one is being bitten but after and is due to an immune response against the secretions from the bite.

As for an evolutionary take on this first there is the question of if it would be a selective advantage as the mosquito has left before swelling and itching occurs. Also that the capability to evolve a means of evading the immune system may be nowhere near on the fitness landscape and may require many detrimental mutations before reaching that step therefore it is unlikely to occur.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
No but what might happen is a mosquitoes might evolve that is slightly less itchy to us, allowing more of them to survive and breed. 'course this wouldn't likely happen unless humans comprised the lion's share of their diet.

And unlikely to happen at all unless there are already hypoallergenic mosqitoes around. They can't just acquire a trait that isn't in their population.

As others have pointed out, the itch is after the fact anyway. By the time you're itching, the mosquito is long gone.
 
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As Moonie pointed out earlier, stagnant pools make it very easy for mosquitoes to breed, and humans are very slack about controlling this. Perhaps the worst offenders are people who dump old tires. Rain-water collects in the tires, and gives mosquitoes safe, protected places to breed with no predators. I have a pond in my backyard, and the first thing I did when we bought the place was to put a fish-trap in the stream down back and trap lots of dace (chubs) to stock the pond with. They are quite good at taking care of the mosquito larvae.

Off the "itching" topic, for sure, but relevant because the best way to fight the itch is not to get bitten, and I sure don't want to use chemicals to achieve that.
 
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turbo said:
As Moonie pointed out earlier, stagnant pools make it very easy for mosquitoes to breed, and humans are very slack about controlling this. Perhaps the worst offenders are people who dump old tires. Rain-water collects in the tires, and gives mosquitoes safe, protected places to breed with no predators. I have a pond in my backyard, and the first thing I did when we bought the place was to put a fish-trap in the stream down back and trap lots of dace (chubs) to stock the pond with. They are quite good at taking care of the mosquito larvae.
Yeah but how many chubs can you put in each tire? :tongue2:
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Yeah but how many chubs can you put in each tire? :tongue2:
If I find any more tires in the woods, maybe I'll throw them in the pond, and the chubs can take care of that themselves.
 
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Moonbear said:
And unlikely to happen at all unless there are already hypoallergenic mosqitoes around. They can't just acquire a trait that isn't in their population.
Presumably there is a certain amount of variation in any number of factors that affect itchiness. They might not even be chemical, they might be behavioral, such as some mosquitoes having a preference for landing on less sensitive parts of the body (based on some attractive factor beknownst only to them).
 

1. Why are mosquitoes and bedbugs so widespread?

Mosquitoes and bedbugs are successful because of their ability to adapt and survive in a wide range of environments. They are also very efficient at reproducing and spreading to new areas.

2. How do mosquitoes and bedbugs survive in different climates?

Mosquitoes and bedbugs are able to survive in different climates due to their ability to enter a dormant state, where they hibernate until the weather becomes favorable for them. They are also able to find shelter in human dwellings, which allows them to thrive in different climates.

3. What makes mosquitoes and bedbugs such efficient bloodsuckers?

Mosquitoes and bedbugs have evolved to have specialized mouthparts that allow them to pierce the skin and suck blood. They also have a unique saliva that contains anticoagulants, making it easier for them to feed on their hosts without being detected.

4. Why are mosquitoes and bedbugs so difficult to control?

Mosquitoes and bedbugs have developed resistance to many insecticides and have become very adaptable to their surroundings. They also have a quick reproductive cycle, making it challenging to eliminate their populations.

5. How do mosquitoes and bedbugs impact human health?

Mosquitoes and bedbugs are known to transmit diseases to humans, making them a significant threat to public health. They can spread diseases such as malaria, dengue fever, and Zika virus. Bedbugs can also cause allergic reactions and skin irritations in some individuals.

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