Divergence of an inverse square field

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the divergence of an inverse square vector field in spherical and Cartesian coordinates. It is important to remember to take into account the 3-dimensional nature of the problem and use the appropriate formula for calculating divergence in spherical coordinates. A quick diagram can be misleading and it is crucial to fully visualize and understand the problem before attempting to solve it.
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Maharshi Roy
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Reference to Griffith electrodynamics question:- 1.16
Compute the divergence of an inverse square vector field.

Now gradient is (∂/∂r)(r cap)
Hence upon taking divergence of inverse square field (r cap)/r^2...We don't get 0.
In fact we get (-2)/r^3.

But if we write the vector field and the gradient both in terms of x, y & z components, and then compute gradient then it comes out to be 0.
Where is the glitch?
 
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Now gradient is (∂/∂r)(r cap)
Hence upon taking divergence of inverse square field (r cap)/r^2...We don't get 0.
In fact we get (-2)/r^3.

The divergence is calculated differently in spherical coordinates than in Cartesian coordinates:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/diverg.html#c3

See also section 1.4.1 in Griffiths (3rd edition), specifically equation (1.71).
 
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Maharshi Roy said:
Reference to Griffith electrodynamics question:- 1.16
Compute the divergence of an inverse square vector field.

Now gradient is (∂/∂r)(r cap)
Hence upon taking divergence of inverse square field (r cap)/r^2...We don't get 0.
In fact we get (-2)/r^3.

But if we write the vector field and the gradient both in terms of x, y & z components, and then compute gradient then it comes out to be 0.
Where is the glitch?

One thing to keep in mind is it's in 3 dimensions. It's easy to accidentally think of it as just 1D and just f=1/r^2 or to just look at the 2D drawing he uses in the book in which cases it would not turn out to be 0 away from the origin. The quick drawing makes it look like you can just look at a single line with arrows and see the arrows fading off so of course if they are changing like that as you go out then you have a divergence. But, it's actually really in 3D and as you have a 1/r^2 dropping off you also have the surrounding surface area of an enveloping sphere increasing it's surface area as r^2 so it balances out and you can see that there is actually no divergence if you just remember to picture it in your mind as in 3 dimensions and to see think about how it's really working out.

It's interesting to note that changing the dimensions of the world you are thinking about can radically change what happens with the physics of that world if you accidentally forget to change the laws as you bring them over.

And it's good to keep in mind how a quick diagram can actually end up misleading one at times. I mean you quickly glance at the drawing, since the arrows shrinking in size (and thus changing in magnitude in a radial direction so of course there is divergence boom. Only not so fast. You need to really think about and visualize in your mind what is really going on in full.

(or as said above, if you just want to plug in and do math, you have to realize that it wasn't written as like f=1/x^2 but it is f=r(spherical radial basis vector)/r^2 so when you take derivatives you need to use the proper formula for spherical divergence which is different and you have to add an r^2 factor times the r component of the function before taking partial/partial r)
 
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1. What is the "inverse square field" in divergence?

The inverse square field in divergence refers to a field where the magnitude decreases with the square of the distance from the source. This can be seen in phenomena such as gravity and electromagnetic radiation.

2. How is the divergence of an inverse square field calculated?

The divergence of an inverse square field is calculated using the divergence operator, which is a mathematical operation that measures the flow of a vector field out of a given point. In the case of an inverse square field, the divergence can be expressed as the sum of the second derivatives of the field components with respect to each spatial coordinate.

3. What is the significance of divergence in an inverse square field?

Divergence is a measure of the spreading of a vector field, and in the case of an inverse square field, it indicates the strength of the field at any given point. A high divergence in an inverse square field means that the field is spreading outwards rapidly, while a low divergence indicates a weak field.

4. How does the divergence of an inverse square field affect its behavior?

The divergence of an inverse square field has a direct impact on its behavior. A low divergence results in a more concentrated and stronger field, while a high divergence leads to a weaker and more diffuse field. This can have significant implications in various physical phenomena, such as the movement of particles or the intensity of radiation.

5. Can the divergence of an inverse square field be negative?

Yes, the divergence of an inverse square field can be negative. This occurs when the field is converging towards a point, rather than spreading outwards. In terms of physical phenomena, this can be seen in situations such as gravitational attraction, where the field is pulling objects towards a central point.

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