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Santosh Shresth
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i want to be an engineer.In your view which is the best one computer engineering or aeronautics engineering regarding its future and income?I live in nepal so which is the best field for me?.
||spoon|| said:Hey all (again),
i posted before in the middle of another deep convo before i suppose and didnt get an answer.. so I am havin a nother shot at it lol :tongue2:
I am an australian year 12 student (not sure of the us equivelant) who is not sure about becoming an aeronautical engineer, physicist or a physics lecturer at a university standard.
My strong points and passions are for both Maths and Physics (obviously) but I am not sure which to go for:
I like the idea of an engineer because you incorporate both maths and physics. I would probably want to go for aerospace engineering mainly because i would prefer to use that type of math and physics (fluid and thermodyanmics etc) not because i have a pssion for planes. (is that bad?)
and of course inevitably because the salary is better lol.
On the other hand however, i am really intrigued by physics which makes me want to learn as much as i can about it because it is so awesome(i mean to a masters or PhD). I love coming across new ideas and equations and theories in my school books. But then i am unsure what kind of job i would be able to fetch with this degree... i think i would like to teach physics at a higher level.. But then i am not too sure what an actual Physicist does as a job on a day to day level.
There is a double degree at the university of melbourne where you receive a bachelor of engineering and a bachelor of science, and i was thinking about going for that and making my mind up at the end of it. Then I realized that they don't teach any aerospace engineering in the course, or the uni for that matter.
This has been bugging me for quite a while now and i would love to hear from anyone with some advice or even a personal experience of the same type.
Thanks a lot guys
-Spoon
desA said:The problem with Engineering is that generally:
"Engineers are overworked, overstressed & disproportionately underpaid for their level of responsibility. In other words - Engineers don't make money".
Many times, Engineers are paid scapegoats who assume the legal responsibility for a company, at lowish pay, while the bosses make the money. When things go wrong, the engineers take the fall.
I am an Consulting Engineer of long standing & would actively advise folks to think many times before entering the profession.
desA said:The problem with Engineering is that generally:
"Engineers are overworked, overstressed & disproportionately underpaid for their level of responsibility. In other words - Engineers don't make money".
Many times, Engineers are paid scapegoats who assume the legal responsibility for a company, at lowish pay, while the bosses make the money. When things go wrong, the engineers take the fall.
I am an Consulting Engineer of long standing & would actively advise folks to think many times before entering the profession.
Computer engineering has a "way broader scope" than AE ?? You must really not know much about AE then. AE is a VERY broad field, probably more than any other engineering filed. AE engineers deal with most types of machines, most types of structures, most types of electrical devices, chemistry, physics, astronomy, systems engineering and yes - a LOT of computers too. Computers, as far as I know are just all about, well.. computers.~electric~ said:I would pick for computer engineering because it has a way broader scope than aeronautical engineering. Engineering is a field to go for if you are really interested in it.. "DON'T PICK IT BY LOOKING AT THE FUTURE INCOME ONLY".
It is a Profession with GREAT responsibility. SO.. first make sure if the things in engineering Interest you or not. :)
Thats my dream coming true:trickae said:why not do a double degree - as long as there's no financial constraints - a physics and engineering combined degree yells hire me on your resume.
Structural/civil/mechanical engineering + physics would do nicely.
I took the GRE's in Math and Physics prior to grad school. I was doing BS in Nuclear Engineering (NE) at the time, and I was looking at MS/PhD in NE or Physics, and went with the NE program. I then did the FE during the first year of MS, since I hadn't got around to it as a undergrad. It was a piece of cake, and somewhat like an SAT/GRE test.jesuslovesu said:I have a question about the GRE for engineers... Obviously they take the general exam, but do they also take the GRE Physics exam?
oroboro said:I'm currently in my last year of high school (last month actually) and have enrolled in Electrical Engineering next year. I like math but dislike physics because there are so many different theories, so I'm a bit confused about what I want to do.
I like computer science and love programming so I orignally wanted to go into that, but I heard that there's a lot of competition and companies are starting to use people from India.
I also like engineering and have always wanted to become an electrical engineer (when I was younger I thought all engineering was electrical), and engineering (as an occupation) sounds much more interesting than programming all day.
But there's one thing I'm really worried about. Will there be demand for electrical engineers (in North America) by the time I graduate (4-5 years)? Loads of people are going into engineering, many into electrical/computer, and then I hear that companies are starting to hire Indians. I know one guy who did electrical and couldn't find a job for 4 years. My uni offers a co-op program but will that be enough?
The India thing really pisses me off. All the things I want to do are being outsourced to these people and I have to constantly worry about being able to find a job once I graduate. If I find that there isn't enough demand I'm going to have to get some art degree and some cpsc and try to get into the video game industry.
I'm extremely sorry about referring to them that way and did not mean to be offensive in any way. I am in fact of Indian origin myself. Very ashamed. When I said "these people" I wasn't trying to use it to be derogatory, but to refer to them as "foreign". I'm very sorry that you found it offensive.batman394 said:Oroboro, first i'd like to start off with "shove it". I'm indian, and I find your comments offensive. "these people" is a horrible, and very condescending way to refer to any group of people. [By the way, I was born and raised in Chicago, so again I say, "shove it"]. Outsourcing in no way will effect the entry level job you might get at an electrical engineering firm.
Ariste said:Hey guys,
It's funny that I should stumble across a thread like this. I ran across these forums a few days ago while searching for some physics information, but I had no idea that they could help me solve this dilemma that I've been facing for a few months now
As a background, I, since a very early age, have been interested in the 'why' and 'how' of things. I know, I know - cliche as hell, but true. I guess the fact that I searched out a physics forums is some indication of that Today the questions of physics particularly intrigue me - the why and how of everything that exists.
As I understand it, a scientist deals only with these questions. A scientist pursues knowledge for the sake of knowledge alone. While this is intriguing to me, and I certainly enjoy knowledge for its own sake, I think that engineering - which I understand to be the application of knowledge - is closer to my cup of tea.
Ultimately, I'm wondering a few things.
1) Is my view of engineering correct? As opposed to pure science, which is the discovery of knowledge for its own sake, engineering is the application of knowledge to some practical purpose. Is that view correct?
2) If so, does an understanding of engineering give a truly fundamental understanding of the science behind it? For example, does a typical electrical engineer (forgive me if this choice of example is poor; I'm not 100% positive what each type of engineer does yet) understand the intricacies of, say, particle physics? My gut tells me this isn't the case, since that seems to be more the realm of the pure physicist.
3) I know I'll probably get crucified for this one, but what are the financial prospects for engineers? I've read that engineers make some of the best salaries straight out of college. How does this translate into later financial opportunities? Is a path from engineering into, say, management of an engineering firm a common path? Something like this would interest me if such opportunities are available.
I know this is sort of a long post, and I hope that I haven't simply reiterated what's already been said. I began to skim through the posts in this thread, but many were years old and, to be honest, my eyes began to bug out after page 13 or so =P
Thanks for any advice, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Ariste said:1) Is my view of engineering correct? As opposed to pure science, which is the discovery of knowledge for its own sake, engineering is the application of knowledge to some practical purpose. Is that view correct?
2) If so, does an understanding of engineering give a truly fundamental understanding of the science behind it? For example, does a typical electrical engineer (forgive me if this choice of example is poor; I'm not 100% positive what each type of engineer does yet) understand the intricacies of, say, particle physics? My gut tells me this isn't the case, since that seems to be more the realm of the pure physicist.
3) I know I'll probably get crucified for this one, but what are the financial prospects for engineers? I've read that engineers make some of the best salaries straight out of college. How does this translate into later financial opportunities? Is a path from engineering into, say, management of an engineering firm a common path? Something like this would interest me if such opportunities are available.