What's being taught in schools

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In summary, the conversation discusses the topic of whether or not subjects such as strings, branes, LQG, and CDT should be taught or excluded when trying to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity. The speakers mention that these subjects are not typically taught at lower education levels and that it may be more important to focus on teaching basic scientific concepts, such as the age of stars and the existence of black holes. They also bring up the issue of intelligent design being taught in schools and suggest that evolution should be taught as an alternative theory. The conversation ends with the idea that evolution should be taught in a more up-to-date and accurate manner in order to counter the misconceptions perpetuated by creationists and intelligent design proponents.
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...with regards to strings, branes, LQG, CDT etc ?

should any of them be taught or should the subject of reconciling QM with GR just be excluded ?

What do you say to a kid who asks you what is the universe made of and how was it made given that the teachers themselves probably have as much of a clue as the kid ?
 
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We really need to know what level of school you are discussing. Particularly whether this is a college physics atmosphere or something else. Would love to try a shot at the answer with that information.
 
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These subject aren't taught at all, and shouldn't be, to any significant extent above the advanced undergraduate level. Simply put, the issue of reconciling QM and GR is irrelevant to anyone who has not been taught what QM and GR even are, and those matters generally are first mentioned at all at the end of a freshman or sophomore physics series, and aren't addressed meaningfully until one reaches advanced ungraduate physics.

I'll be happy enough if we have science textbooks at the pre-collegiate level that consistently note that stars are older than 10,000 years, very hot, and very far away, that black holes exist, and that there exists physics below the proton-neutron-electron model of the atom.
 
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I see though that intelligent design is getting sanctioned by the bushman to be taught in schools and I'm presuming at year one entry level.

So as an alternative theory to creationism shouldn't something be taught that counters the potential damaging effect of deferring responsibility for all that we see to an unknown entity which essentially colours a childs perception from day one

could cosmic natural selection be that theory ?
 
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Sam Owen said:
I see though that intelligent design is getting sanctioned by the bushman to be taught in schools and I'm presuming at year one entry level.

So as an alternative theory to creationism shouldn't something be taught that counters the potential damaging effect of deferring responsibility for all that we see to an unknown entity which essentially colours a childs perception from day one

could cosmic natural selection be that theory ?

The theory that should be taught is evolution, of species here on earth, in a properly up-to-date manner. The creationists and ID freaks thrive on old out-of-date misconceptions of what evolution says.
 

1. What subjects are typically taught in schools?

In most schools, students are taught a variety of subjects including math, science, English, history, and social studies. Other common subjects may include art, music, physical education, and foreign languages.

2. How do schools decide what to teach?

Schools typically follow state or national curriculum guidelines that outline the required subjects and learning objectives for each grade level. Schools may also consider community needs and input from parents and educators when making decisions about what to teach.

3. Are there any controversial topics being taught in schools?

Controversial topics may vary depending on the school district and community. Some common examples include sex education, evolution, and climate change. Schools may have policies in place for discussing these topics in a respectful and age-appropriate manner.

4. Are there any recent changes to what's being taught in schools?

Educational standards and curriculum may be updated periodically to reflect current research and societal changes. For example, there may be changes to history curriculum to include more diverse perspectives or updates to science curriculum to include new discoveries.

5. How do schools ensure that students are learning what's being taught?

Schools use various methods to assess student learning, such as tests, quizzes, projects, and presentations. Teachers also use classroom observations and informal assessments to gauge student understanding. Additionally, schools may provide resources for students who need extra support to ensure they are learning the material.

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