Why is the energy of two ions bonded lower than two ions separated?

In summary, the formation of a bond between two ions can lower the overall energy of the system due to the indistinguishability of particles and the superposition that results from treating identical particles. This allows for bosons to be closer together and fermions to be farther apart, leading to the electrons being able to occupy a singlet state and attract the protons towards the center. Covalent bonding is an essentially quantum mechanical effect and can occur even with molecules containing only one electron. In the triplet state, the electron pair is antibonding, preventing covalent bonding from occurring. However, in the case of two positive and two negative charges, a crude model can be constructed that demonstrates binding. Quantum chemistry can provide a more accurate understanding
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How does forming a bond between two ions lower the overall energy of the system? Also how would two hydrogen atoms form if there is proton-proton repulsion and electron-electron repulsion and only proton-electron attraction?
 
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In the case of covalent bonding, it's a consequence of the indistinguishability of particles! Griffiths talks about this at the end of his Intro to Quantum book in Chapter 5. Essentially, the superposition that results from treating identical particles (they are treated as distinguishable classically) results in bosons being closer together and fermions (like electrons) being farther apart and once you consider spin, the electrons are able to occupy the "singlet" state where they are more likely to be in between the two nuclei, attracting them towards the center.
 
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Pythagorean said:
In the case of covalent bonding, it's a consequence of the indistinguishability of particles! Griffiths talks about this at the end of his Intro to Quantum book in Chapter 5. Essentially, the superposition that results from treating identical particles (they are treated as distinguishable classically) results in bosons (nucleus) being closer together and fermions (like electrons) being farther apart and once you consider spin, the electrons are able to occupy the "singlet" state where they are more likely to be in between the two nuclei, attracting them towards the center.

Aren't most nuclei fermions, not bosons?
 
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Ah yes, good point. Removed the reference to the nucleus. The electrons concentrating in the middle and attracting the protons is really the key point, I think.
 
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Indistinguishability is not the crucial point, given that you observe covalent bonding already for molecules containing only one electron, namely ##\mathrm{H}_2^+##.
Classically you won't expect a big effect, as nuclear-nuclear repulsion and electron-electron repulsion is made up at bonding distances by electron nuclear attraction.
In fact, covalent bonding is an essentially quantum mechanical effect. In the molecule, the electron can move in the potential throughs of two nuclei as compared to only one in the case of a single atom. This increases its positional uncertainty ##\Delta x## along the bond axis and by the uncertainty principle lowers its momentum uncertainty ##\Delta p=\hbar/\Delta x##.
Hence also its kinetic energy gets lower although the story doesn't end here.
There is an excellent article by Kutzelnigg, a quantum chemist, on the principle behind bonding:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.197305461/abstract
 
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DrDu said:
Indistinguishability is not the crucial point, given that you observe covalent bonding already for molecules containing only one electron, namely ##\mathrm{H}_2^+##.
Classically you won't expect a big effect, as nuclear-nuclear repulsion and electron-electron repulsion is made up at bonding distances by electron nuclear attraction.
In fact, covalent bonding is an essentially quantum mechanical effect. In the molecule, the electron can move in the potential throughs of two nuclei as compared to only one in the case of a single atom. This increases its positional uncertainty ##\Delta x## along the bond axis and by the uncertainty principle lowers its momentum uncertainty ##\Delta p=\hbar/\Delta x##.
Hence also its kinetic energy gets lower although the story doesn't end here.
There is an excellent article by Kutzelnigg, a quantum chemist, on the principle behind bonding:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.197305461/abstract

Huh. I never knew that. Thanks Dru.
 
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DrDu said:
Indistinguishability is not the crucial point, given that you observe covalent bonding already for molecules containing only one electron, namely ##\mathrm{H}_2^+##.
Classically you won't expect a big effect, as nuclear-nuclear repulsion and electron-electron repulsion is made up at bonding distances by electron nuclear attraction.
In fact, covalent bonding is an essentially quantum mechanical effect. In the molecule, the electron can move in the potential throughs of two nuclei as compared to only one in the case of a single atom. This increases its positional uncertainty ##\Delta x## along the bond axis and by the uncertainty principle lowers its momentum uncertainty ##\Delta p=\hbar/\Delta x##.
Hence also its kinetic energy gets lower although the story doesn't end here.
There is an excellent article by Kutzelnigg, a quantum chemist, on the principle behind bonding:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.197305461/abstract

Interesting read. They explicitly demonstrate how little the "exchange force" plays. I'll note that identical particles is a quantum mechanical effect, not a classical one.

So the next claim Griffiths makes is that in the triplet state, the electron pair are "antibonding" which implies to me that they will prevent covalent bonding in that case. Is that true?
 
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Pythagorean said:
So the next claim Griffiths makes is that in the triplet state, the electron pair are "antibonding" which implies to me that they will prevent covalent bonding in that case. Is that true?

The problem is that e.g. in H_2, starting from the 1s orbitals, you can only form one bounding and one anti-bounding orbital as in H2+. With singlet pairing both electrons can fill the same bounding orbital, while with triplet pairing, one has to be in the anti-bonding orbital, so that no net bond results.
 
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The answer to the original question is much simpler than the above. You can construct a very crude model of 2 positive and 2 negative charges which is bound. Take a square ABCD of side a, with protons at A and C and electrons B and D. The energy is (-4+2sqrt(2))/a, which means binding.
Quantum chemistry will give an accurate number involving e kinetic energy, ep potential energy, e-e repulsion mitigated by e-e correlation. To become more precise you have to use Dirac theory, finite nuclear size, nuclear motion, radiative correction. But that was not the question.
 

1. Why do ions bond together?

Ions bond together because of the attractive forces between positively and negatively charged particles. This attraction forms strong electrostatic bonds, which result in the formation of a stable compound.

2. How does the energy of two bonded ions compare to two separated ions?

The energy of two ions bonded together is lower than two ions separated because the bond formation releases energy. This energy is a result of the attractive forces between the ions, which reduces the potential energy of the system.

3. What factors affect the energy of bonded ions?

The energy of bonded ions is affected by the distance between the ions, the charge of the ions, and the size of the ions. A shorter distance, higher charge, and smaller ion size all contribute to a stronger bond with lower energy.

4. Can the energy of bonded ions be broken down into specific components?

Yes, the energy of bonded ions can be broken down into different components such as electrostatic energy, kinetic energy, and potential energy. These components help to explain the overall energy of the bonded ions.

5. How does the bond strength between ions affect the overall energy of a compound?

The bond strength between ions directly affects the overall energy of a compound. A stronger bond results in a lower overall energy, while a weaker bond leads to a higher energy. This is because stronger bonds require more energy to break, while weaker bonds require less energy.

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