Estimating humidifier evaporative capacities

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In summary, an HVAC technician is trying to create a spreadsheet with formulas to analyze the outputs of different models of furnace humidifiers. These humidifiers are all "flow through" models with a solenoid valve and a honeycomb-shaped water panel. The hot air (120F) is forced through the water panel, but the water is not recirculated and instead goes down the unit's drain. The manufacturer's specs are not comparable due to different conditions and missing factors, causing issues with sizing for specific applications or addressing customer complaints. The variables for the spreadsheet include RH level and temp in the house, size of the water panels, inlet water temperatures and flow rate, and air temperatures blowing over the water panel. Formulas for estimating the
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I'm an HVAC technician trying to assemble a spreadsheet with formulas for different furnace humidifiers to analyze the outputs of different models in different scenarios but the factors are horrendous. All would be of the same basic type "flow through", bypass air models. - Water flows through a solenoid valve and enters the top of a "water panel" at the rate of 3 gallons per hour. The water panel is always a honeycomb shaped device with a "wetting agent" coating over it to make it slightly absorbent. About 120 CFM of hot air (120F) is forced through the cascading water going down the water panel. The water that trickles down the water panel via gravity is NOT recirculated. The water that doesn't evaporate merely goes down the unit’s drain located under the water panel. This lost volume of water typically amounts to between 66 & 80% of the inlet flow rate (of typically 3 GPM) depending on the air temps, water temps, flow rate of both the water and the air, and obviously also on the RH in the house. So even with the best-case scenario, only 1 of every 3 gallons of water consumed ends up the air.

Unfortunately, the manufacturer's specs don't allow you to compare apples to apples, because they rate them at different conditions, ESPECIALLY the water temps (from 55F to 140F) and they often leave out required factors. So we often get caught with our pants down when we try to properly size these for given application or try to address customer’s capacity complaints for ones we didn’t install.

What formulas would you recommend for creating a spreadsheet to estimate the evaporative capacities with the variables being:

1. RH level & temp in the house
2. Cubic inches of size of the water panels
3. Inlet water temperatures
4. Inlet water flow rate in gallons per hour
5. Temps of the air blowing over the water panel

The altitude would always be fixed for this area, i.e. at sea-level.
 
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Formulas are tough for this. How strong are you with psychrometrics? Basically, you model one of these humidifiers as functioning like a cooling tower and you figure 50-75% efficiency at achieving saturation. But how you find out if it is 50% or 75% would be pretty tough.

I think, though, what probably causes you to get caught with your pants down is the difficulty in estimating how "tight" the house is that you install it in. I've dealt with some old buildings converted to luxury apartments and they are rediculously loose. Tenants want humidifiers, but the humidity just goes straight out through the 80 year old window frames.

Best advice: figure out what size you think you need...then pick the next bigger one.
 

1. What is the purpose of estimating humidifier evaporative capacities?

The purpose of estimating humidifier evaporative capacities is to determine the amount of water that a humidifier can evaporate into the air in a given time period. This information is important for choosing the right humidifier for a specific space and understanding its effectiveness.

2. How do you calculate humidifier evaporative capacities?

Humidifier evaporative capacities can be calculated by measuring the amount of water that a humidifier adds to the air in a given time period, typically measured in gallons per hour (GPH). This can be done by measuring the water level in the humidifier before and after use, and dividing the difference by the time elapsed.

3. What factors affect the humidifier evaporative capacities?

Several factors can affect the humidifier evaporative capacities, including the size and design of the humidifier, room temperature and humidity, and the type of water used. Higher room temperatures and humidity levels can increase the rate of evaporation, while using hard water can decrease it due to mineral buildup.

4. Are there different methods for estimating humidifier evaporative capacities?

Yes, there are different methods for estimating humidifier evaporative capacities. These include using a hygrometer to measure the change in humidity levels in the room, using a flow meter to measure the amount of water added to the humidifier, or using manufacturer-provided data on the humidifier's GPH rate.

5. How often should humidifier evaporative capacities be estimated?

It is recommended to estimate humidifier evaporative capacities at least once a year, as changes in room temperature, humidity levels, and water quality can affect the rate of evaporation. If there are noticeable changes in the performance of the humidifier, it may be necessary to estimate the capacities more frequently.

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