Obama for President: Experienced Leader

[Char. Limit]

I have to agree with turbo here. We need to focus to get this thread back on topic and off of economic theory.
So back on subject, Obama, great president? Or greatest? :tongue:

He's certainly not the greatest president, and I personally wouldn't even call him great, but he's definitely an acceptable president. He inherited some hard times and is pulling through them, albeit slowly.

 

[phoenix:\\]

Great?

In my opinion you'd have to compare presidents by the ability to take care of the country s/he is currently leading as opposed to comparing president against other president in a previous era/time. Different factors cause for different approaches. With that said, although different factors cause for different approaches, a certain ideology must be upheld and if one contends against it with a rather unjust law, s/he leading should fight against it and not support it under any provisional conditions it may have, even if it is to be passed eventually. Obama didn't do that with the newest version of the NDAA bill. So, no, he is not a great president. Some things should be fundamentally stood against and his, "well, we will make sure we look into cases where citizens of the United States have been detained under suspicion and make sure they are treated fairly and justly tried under these cases" doesn't help. Unless he was participating in game theory and some psychology that in the event he signs this bill, he may garner some support from his opposition in time of his election, only speaks of the character and is more disgusting and should be against any person's ideology. But that sort of thinking (my thinking) may be archaic and impractical, but that is a value I hold up for myself and I don't like people leading me that have values I disagree with fundamentally.

 

[JonDE]

Great?

In my opinion you'd have to compare presidents by the ability to take care of the country s/he is currently leading as opposed to comparing president against other president in a previous era/time. Different factors cause for different approaches. With that said, although different factors cause for different approaches, a certain ideology must be upheld and if one contends against it with a rather unjust law, s/he leading should fight against it and not support it under any provisional conditions it may have, even if it is to be passed eventually. Obama didn't do that with the newest version of the NDAA bill. So, no, he is not a great president. Some things should be fundamentally stood against and his, "well, we will make sure we look into cases where citizens of the United States have been detained under suspicion and make sure they are treated fairly and justly tried under these cases" doesn't help. Unless he was participating in game theory and some psychology that in the event he signs this bill, he may garner some support from his opposition in time of his election, only speaks of the character and is more disgusting and should be against any person's ideology. But that sort of thinking (my thinking) may be archaic and impractical, but that is a value I hold up for myself and I don't like people leading me that have values I disagree with fundamentally.

It was intended as a joke. I think I have failed once again to convey humor across the internet.

 

[Astronuc]

White House Opens Door to Big Donors, and Lobbyists Slip In
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/us/politics/white-house-doors-open-for-big-donors.html

A cross-reference of donor lists and visitor logs show that of those who gave $100,000 or more, about three-quarters of them visited the White House.

:grumpy:


One of the many things that have surely not changed.

 

[ThomasT]

Betty White has endorsed Obama.

 

[Astronuc]

Four reasons Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign had a bad week
http://news.yahoo.com/four-reasons-obama’s-2012-re-election-campaign-had-a-bad-week.html

It's still the economy for many or most.

 

[JonDE]

Four reasons Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign had a bad week
http://news.yahoo.com/four-reasons-obama’s-2012-re-election-campaign-had-a-bad-week.html

It's still the economy for many or most.

It will most likely be the deciding factor, I know it probably will be for me on how I vote.
Last I heard the fed was predicting a summer slow down, I'm not sure what they were basing that on, but if correct it would be very bad news for Obama and his re-election.

 

[mheslep]

Daily tracking polls have started

Gallup: Romney up by 2+
Rasmussen: Romney up by 4+

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ministration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153902/romney-obama-tight-race-gallup-daily-tracking-begins.aspx

 

[Evo]

Current polls

National
Politco - Obama - 50%

Romney - 42%

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/presidential-polls/

General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Polling Data

RCP Average 4/27 - 5/12 --

Obama - 47.0
Romney 45.0
Obama +2.0

Rasmussen Tracking 5/10 - 5/12 -
Obama - 44
Romney -48
Romney +4

Gallup Tracking 5/6 - 5/12
Obama - 46
Romney - 45
Obama +1

Associated Press/GfK 5/3 - 5/7
Obama - 50
Romney - 42
Obama +8

Reuters/Ipsos 5/3 - 5/7 959
Obama - 49
Romney - 42
Obama +7

Politico/GWU/Battleground 4/29 - 5/3
Obama - 47
Romney - 48
Romney +1

IBD/CSM/TIPP 4/27 - 5/4
Obama - 46
Romney - 43
Obama +3

Democracy Corps (D) 4/28 - 5/1
Obama - 47
Romney - 47
Tie

See All General Election: Romney vs. Obama Polling Data

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

 

[SHISHKABOB]

it looks like this election is going to be close. At least, from this point in time and according to those polls.