Impossible Mono-thermal Source: Applying Laws of Thermodynamics

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In summary, the 1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics state that it is impossible to create a heat engine with only one heat reservoir.
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Applying the 1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics to a cycle, show that it is impossible to build a heat engine with only one heat resevoir (T ext.)

First law : dU=dQ - dW

2nd law : It is impossible for any system to undergo a process in which it absorbs heat from a reservoir at a single temperature and converts the heat completely to mechanical work, with the system ending in the same state in which it began.

Where do I begin and is T ext.?
 
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Applying the 1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics to a cycle, show that it is impossible to build a heat engine with only one heat resevoir (T ext.)

First law : dU=dQ - dW

2nd law : It is impossible for any system to undergo a process in which it absorbs heat from a reservoir at a single temperature and converts the heat completely to mechanical work, with the system ending in the same state in which it began.

Where do I begin and is T ext.?
First Law: Consider the change in internal energy if the heat is flowing from one reservoir to another at the same temperature. What does that say about the relationship between dQ and dW?

Second Law: All the heat cannot be converted to work. So what does that tell you about the value of dQ (and dW)?

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Okay so dU must be 0 and if there were true then by first law

W = -Q but if temp is constant than

Q = mCdelta T => Q =0

So W = 0

So the efficiency is 0

Is that why?
 
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Okay so dU must be 0 and if there were true then by first law

W = -Q but if temp is constant than

Q = mCdelta T => Q =0

So W = 0

So the efficiency is 0

Is that why?
There is no work done. So it is not an engine. (The efficiency is undefined).

AM
 

What is an impossible mono-thermal source?

An impossible mono-thermal source is a hypothetical system that violates the laws of thermodynamics by producing an output of heat without any input of heat. This is not possible according to the first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or converted.

Can the laws of thermodynamics be applied to an impossible mono-thermal source?

Yes, the laws of thermodynamics can still be applied to an impossible mono-thermal source as they are fundamental principles that govern the behavior of energy. However, the source itself would not be a physically possible system.

What are the implications of an impossible mono-thermal source?

An impossible mono-thermal source would have significant implications for our understanding of energy and the laws of thermodynamics. It would challenge the current scientific theories and require a reevaluation of our understanding of energy production and transfer.

Is it possible for an impossible mono-thermal source to exist in reality?

No, it is not possible for an impossible mono-thermal source to exist in reality. The first and second laws of thermodynamics clearly state that such a source would violate the fundamental principles of energy and heat transfer.

Are there any real-life examples of an impossible mono-thermal source?

No, there are no known real-life examples of an impossible mono-thermal source. All known energy sources require an input of energy to produce an output of heat, which is in accordance with the laws of thermodynamics.

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