Showing that a three-dimensional vector field is conservative

In summary: But now you know that f= xz^2 + x^2 y + h(y) so this shows that h is a constant.In summary, the potential function for the given field is f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + x^2y, and the constant term h(y) is equal to 0.
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CactuarEnigma
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Alright, so the field is [tex]\mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)[/tex]
it's a gradient only when [tex]f_x = z^2 + 2xy[/tex], [tex]f_y = x^2[/tex] and [tex]f_z = 2xz[/tex]
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get [tex]f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + x^2y + g(y,z) [/tex]
now, [tex]f_z(x,y,z) = g_z(y,x)[/tex] which is 2xz
integrate that with respect to z, [tex]g(y,z) = \int 2xz\,dz = xz^2 + h(y)[/tex]
plug that into our previous expression [tex]f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + x^2y + g(y,z) = 2xz^2 + x^2y + h(y)[/tex]
derive that with respect to y for [tex]f_y(x,y,z) = x^2 + h'(y) = x^2[/tex]
so [tex]h'(y) = 0[/tex] and [tex]h(y) = c[/tex] and we can set [tex]c = 0[/tex] and now the potential function is [tex]f(x,y,z) = 2xz^2 + x^2y[/tex] which is wrong. It should be [tex]f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + x^2y[/tex]. Help me please. Sorry if my LaTeX is wonky.
 
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CactuarEnigma said:
Alright, so the field is [tex]\mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)[/tex]
it's a gradient only when [tex]f_x = z^2 + 2xy[/tex], [tex]f_y = x^2[/tex] and [tex]f_z = 2xz[/tex]
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get [tex]f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + z^2y + g(y,z) [/tex]
no...the second term is x^2y
 
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CactuarEnigma said:
Alright, so the field is [tex]\mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)[/tex]
it's a gradient only when [tex]f_x = z^2 + 2xy[/tex], [tex]f_y = x^2[/tex] and [tex]f_z = 2xz[/tex]
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get [tex]f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + z^2y + g(y,z) [/tex]
now, [tex]f_z(x,y,z) = g_z(y,x)[/tex] which is 2xz
integrate that with respect to z, [tex]g(y,z) = \int 2xz\,dz = xz^2 + h(y)[/tex]
plug that into our previous expression [tex]f(x,y,z) = xz^2 + z^2y + g(y,z) = 2xz^2 + z^2y + h(y)[/tex]
derive that with respect to y for [tex]F_y(x,y,z) = x^2 + h'(y) = x^2[/tex]
No, your derivative is wrong. should be z^2 + h'
 
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Hold on, I'm trying to fix what I typed, as it doesn't match my paper here... alright, fixing the first thing fixed the second thing, so now this reflects how I did the problem.
 
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CactuarEnigma said:
Alright, so the field is [tex]\mathbf{F} = (z^2 + 2xy,x^2,2xz)[/tex]
it's a gradient only when [tex]f_x = z^2 + 2xy[/tex], [tex]f_y = x^2[/tex] and [tex]f_z = 2xz[/tex]
integrate the first equation with respect to x to get [tex]f(x,y,z) = \int z^2 +2xy\,dx = xz^2 + x^2y + g(y,z) [/tex]
now, [tex]f_z(x,y,z) = g_z(y,x)[/tex] which is 2xz
no. Look at your f(x,y,z). f_z is 2xz + g_z
 
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nrqed said:
no. Look at your f(x,y,z). f_z is 2xz + g_z
So then what do you do from there? f_z = 2xz + g_z and we know that f_z = 2xz so that g_z = 0 and g = h(y), is that right? That would give the right answer.
 
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CactuarEnigma said:
So then what do you do from there? f_z = 2xz + g_z and we know that f_z = 2xz so that g_z = 0 and g = h(y), is that right? That would give the right answer.
yes..
You are done. the derivative with respect to y of f must give x^2. But now you know that f= xz^2 + x^2 y + h(y) so this shows that h is a constant.
You are done.
 

1. How do you determine if a three-dimensional vector field is conservative?

The easiest way to determine if a three-dimensional vector field is conservative is by checking if its curl is equal to zero. If the curl is equal to zero, then the field is conservative. Alternatively, you can also check if the field satisfies the gradient theorem.

2. What is the significance of a conservative vector field?

A conservative vector field represents a force field that is path-independent, meaning that the work done by the force on an object is only dependent on the initial and final positions of the object, not on the path taken between them. This makes it easier to calculate the work done by the force.

3. Can a three-dimensional vector field be both conservative and non-conservative?

No, a vector field cannot be both conservative and non-conservative. If the curl of a field is equal to zero, then it is conservative. If the curl is not equal to zero, then it is non-conservative.

4. How do you prove that a three-dimensional vector field is conservative?

To prove that a three-dimensional vector field is conservative, you need to show that its curl is equal to zero. You can also prove it by showing that the field satisfies the gradient theorem, which states that the line integral of a conservative field is equal to the difference in potential between the two endpoints.

5. What are some real-life examples of a conservative vector field?

Some real-life examples of conservative vector fields include gravity, electrostatics, and magnetostatics. In each of these cases, the force acting on an object is path-independent, making them conservative fields. Another example is a fluid flow, where the velocity field is conservative because the work done by the fluid on an object is only dependent on the object's initial and final positions.

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