Guilt about the abuse of the earth

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In summary, the conversation discusses the guilt felt about the abuse of the earth, the lack of defining milestones and rituals in spirituality, and the sense of disconnectedness from the Earth. These factors are seen as contributing to fanatical behavior, not only in terrorist groups but also in extreme religious movements and gangs. The conversation also touches on the need for mass education to spread awareness about environmental issues and the misconception of humans being separate from the rest of the natural world. The example of the management of Yellowstone National Park is used to highlight the detrimental effects of human intervention on the environment.
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Guilt about the abuse of the earth, lack of defining milestones and rituals (spiritual), disconnectedness from the Earth all are contributing factors to fanatical behavior (not only terrorists but extreme religious movements, gangs, etc).


I more troubled with the current situation of our environment. it is continuously deteriorating and we have to move fast. I understand very less work has been done to this direction and world wide mass education is the need of the day. Can someone suggest how best we can spread the awareness?
 
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lane9a5a said:
I more troubled with the current situation of our environment. it is continuously deteriorating and we have to move fast. I understand very less work has been done to this direction and world wide mass education is the need of the day.

This type of thread has been posted numerous times, and I always feel like I want to answer back exactly the same way.

You are mixing up "deterioration" with "change." The environment "is." The environment does not live up to try to be something, whatever the environment is, that is what it is. Maybe it has dinosaurs, or maybe all the dinosaurs died, maybe it has puffins, maybe all the puffins died, maybe there was a catastrophic bacteriphage, eliminating half of the population of a certain species of bacteria, maybe beavers put up a dam to very quickly alter the previous flow of a river or stream, maybe over thousands of years, a coral reef grows, and then a sudden influx of cyclonic activity or salination increases 3% over ten years and the coral reef starts to die off, maybe African termites build an earthen fortress jutting out of the ground, icebergs break off and are hosts to increased sea life in the surrounding miles from valuable nutritious sediment frozen inside the ice that was once on land.

Through evolution, new species are created by speciation—where new organisms arise and thrive when they are able to find and exploit an ecological niche. Species become extinct when they are no longer able to survive in changing conditions or against superior competition. Conditions on the Earth are always changing, and dramatically is not rare. It is not something new, caused by humans. Termite mounds, beaver dams, and coral reefs all change their environment dramatically, affecting many other creatures. Are they interferring with nature? Are humans some sanctioned animal with a higher right and seperate, on some higher level, from the rest of the natural world? What I see here is some sort of anthropocentrism. That we are special, and that we have some sort of right over all other species.

When Theodore Roosevelt visited Yellowstone National Park, the first piece of land ever to be set aside for preservation, in 1903, he saw a landscape teeming with game. There were thousands of elk, buffalo, black bear, deer, mountain lions, grizzlies, coyotes, wolves, and bighorn sheep. By that time there were rules in place to keep things the way they were. The Park Service was formed, a new bureaucracy whose sole purpose was to maintain the park in its original condition.

Within 10 years, the teeming landscape that Roosevelt saw was gone forever—the Park rangers, who were supposed to be keeping the park in pristine condition, and had taken a series of steps that they thought were in the best interest of preserving the park.

The Park Service mistankenly believed that the deer and antelope were becoming extinct, they tried to increase the populations within the park by eliminating predators. To that end, they shot and poisoned all the wolves and cougars in the park.

Totally protected now, the deer, antelope, and elk populations exploded. It was learned that the predators were not the ones damaging the deer and antelope population, it was actually overgrazing of aspen by elk. The management policy of killing predators had only made things worse, because now, the elk, deer, and antelope, would eat even more—And they did. They ate so much of certain trees and grasses, that the ecology of the park began to change on a much larger level. The elk defoliated trees that the beavers used to make dams, so the beavers vanished. The Park Service found out that beavers were vital to the overall management of the region, and when the beavers vanished, the hydroecology changed, meadows dried up, trout and otter populations decreased, soil erosion increased, park ecology changed even further.

By the 1920s, it was clear there were way too many elk, so the rangers shot them by the thousands. The change in plant ecology seemed permanent; the old mix of trees and grasses never returned.

It also became clear that Native American hunters were part of the system in the region as well. They kept down the numbers of elk, moose, and bison. North American humans had exerted a huge influence on the environment for thousands of years, http://www.fsl.orst.edu/coops/ama/ncama/guidch2.htm" , and hunting others to extinction—capitulation to a superior species. The rule forbidding Native Americans from hunting was seen as a mistake, but it was just one of many that continued to be made by the Park Service. Grizzlies were protected, then killed off, Wolves were killed off, then brought back. Fire prevention policies were instituted, with no understanding of the regenerative effects of fire. When the policy was reversed, thousands of acres were burned so hotly to the ground that it was sterilized, and forests did not grow back without reseeding. Rainbow trout were introduced in the 70s, that species killed off the native cutthroat species. And on and on and on and on.

It is a history of ignorant, incompetent, intrusive intervention, followed by disastrous attempts to repair, followed by attempts to repair damage caused by repairs. The stories here are every bit as dramatic as any oil spill or toxic waste dump, but in these ones there are no evil awful big corporations, or fossil fuel economy to blame. These are disasters caused by environmentalists, the very people who wanted to protect the environment, who made one unintentinal mistake after another, and never learned.

Passive protection, leaving things alone, doesn't preserve the status quo within a wilderness any more than it does in your backyard. The world is alive, things are constantly in flux. Species are winning, losing, rising, falling, exploding, bottlenecking, taking over, being pushed back. Merely leaving it alone doesn't put it in a state of supsended animation.

Humans do care what happens to the environment in the future, and try hard. Humans just don't know what they are doing, period. We haven't made an action that only had postive consequences yet - http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.html" "

Why are we interferring with the course of nature? Why do some try to keep it the way it is? Why do some blame humans for changing it? We are no different from any other part of nature. It will change for better or for worse, if we are here or we are not here. If humans were in this state of development before the last ice age, we would blame each other for causing it, and the history of human thoughts on climate change http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling" .

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I completely understand and share your concerns about the state of our environment. It is disheartening to see the continuous abuse and destruction of our planet. I believe that guilt about our actions towards the earth is a natural and necessary emotion, as it can motivate us to take action and make changes for the better.

I agree that a lack of defining milestones and rituals in our society can contribute to fanatical behavior. Without a strong connection to the earth and a sense of responsibility towards it, some may turn to extreme ideologies or actions. It is important for us to reconnect with the earth and recognize the impact of our actions on it.

In terms of spreading awareness and educating others about the importance of protecting our environment, I believe that it starts with small, individual actions. We can lead by example and make changes in our own lifestyles, such as reducing our use of single-use plastics, conserving energy, and supporting sustainable practices. We can also engage in conversations with our friends, family, and community about the state of our environment and the actions we can take to make a positive impact.

Additionally, supporting and getting involved with organizations and initiatives that focus on environmental conservation and education can also make a significant impact. By spreading information and raising awareness through various platforms such as social media, we can reach a wider audience and inspire others to take action as well.

It is essential for us to come together as a global community and take responsibility for the well-being of our planet. Let us use our guilt as a driving force to make changes and work towards a sustainable future for generations to come.
 

1. What is the impact of human activities on the Earth's environment?

Human activities, such as deforestation, pollution, and overconsumption, have a significant impact on the Earth's environment. These activities contribute to climate change, loss of biodiversity, and depletion of natural resources, ultimately leading to the degradation of the Earth's ecosystems.

2. How does the abuse of the Earth affect future generations?

The abuse of the Earth has long-term consequences for future generations. The degradation of the environment can lead to food and water shortages, displacement of communities, and negative health effects. It is important to take action now to ensure a sustainable future for generations to come.

3. What can individuals do to reduce their impact on the Earth?

Individuals can make a significant difference by making small changes in their daily lives. This can include reducing energy and water consumption, using renewable energy sources, reducing waste, and supporting sustainable practices. It is also important to educate others and advocate for environmental protection.

4. How can businesses and industries decrease their impact on the Earth?

Businesses and industries have a responsibility to implement sustainable practices in their operations. This can include reducing carbon emissions, minimizing waste, and using environmentally-friendly materials and processes. By adopting sustainable practices, businesses can help reduce the overall impact on the Earth.

5. What are the potential consequences if we continue to abuse the Earth?

If we continue to abuse the Earth, the consequences will be severe. This can include more frequent and severe natural disasters, loss of biodiversity, food and water shortages, and negative impacts on human health. It is crucial that we take action to protect the Earth and prevent these potential consequences.

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